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Thanks! Then everything makes more sense by now .
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12-22-2020 11:20 AM
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Your rifle is as close to a military issue L96A1 as you can get without being accused of stealing it from the MoD
Very nice indeed!
(MoD = Ministry of Defence)
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Originally Posted by
waco16
Your rifle is as close to a military issue L96A1 as you can get without being accused of stealing it from the MoD
Very nice indeed!
(MoD = Ministry of Defence)
I think it is highly likely that Promo's rifle has been retro fitted with a military L96 barrel? Was this your rifle Waco?
If not, then the end has been machined to accept the foresight.
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Originally Posted by
Gil Boyd
Roy,
Since reading the 14/15/16 posts I am a tad confused.
Could you just clarify whether it should or should not be present on PM's please?
Gil
Early PM rifles did not have the NSN and designation on them. These preceeded the L96A1 adoption.
Once L96 production was up and running then it stands to reason that anyone wanting a PM (i.e. Police Forces) would have one made on an available receiver, which would have been an L96 designated action, because that's what they were making at the time and they are otherwise identical.
You said before that Frank's PM has the longer magazine, with plastic insert, this would date his rifle as an 85/86 PM. In fact I think I know the one he has and where it came from.
Therefore his wouldn't have the NSN on the receiver.
Promo's rifle is a 1989 PM, which post dates the L96 introduction, so his carries the NSN but the serial number shows it was not a military issue L96A1. The only difference with Promo's is that it has a military barrel, foresight and rear sight to make it look like an issued L96A1.
I suppose there may have been a transitional period when the rifles weren't marked thus, and maybe Steve Houghton's book will shed light on this.
There are different styles of markings too, some are engraved within an elongated recess, others are just engraved direct onto the receiver.
So, the answer is
Some PMs have it, others don't and it probably depends on their age.
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Originally Posted by
Roy W
I think it is highly likely that Promo's rifle has been retro fitted with a military L96 barrel? Was this your rifle Waco?
If not, then the end has been machined to accept the foresight.
Not mine, Roy, though I suspect the serial number is within a couple of digits of it
For anyone who has access to a lathe its quite a simple task to turn a std AW barrel down to accept an L96 foresight
I think the vast majority of ex police L96's - sorry PM's - in private hands have had this done to put them into British Army trim.
Last edited by waco16; 12-23-2020 at 04:53 AM.
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Very interesting. I bought my rifle as a Police issued rifle. I didn't knew the Police has had different barrels or at least differently contoured barrels/with flash hiders. Did the Police rifles also had different scopes, or the Schmidt & Bender scopes as I have on my rifle?
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Here's my rifle in its original Bedfordshire Police configuration
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Originally Posted by
waco16
Here's my rifle in its original Bedfordshire Police configuration
Just lovely!
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Originally Posted by
Promo
Very interesting. I bought my rifle as a Police issued rifle. I didn't knew the Police has had different barrels or at least differently contoured barrels/with flash hiders. Did the Police rifles also had different scopes, or the Schmidt & Bender scopes as I have on my rifle?
Originally the PM's were available with a 2.5-10x56 S&B scope.
Later on I believe Forces bought them without scopes, or with S&B 3-12x56. The post above from Waco shows a 2.5-10x56 scope.
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Originally Posted by
Roy W
Just lovely!
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Originally the PM's were available with a 2.5-10x56 S&B scope.
Later on I believe Forces bought them without scopes, or with S&B 3-12x56. The post above from Waco shows a 2.5-10x56 scope.
Thanks, Roy - and still incredibly accurate!
Its not too long ago it shot a top score in a 300 and 600 comp at Kingsbury ranges against some F class boys with their huge bipods, long barrels and rear rests
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waco16, does your rifle also have a number on the left side of the stock at the rear?
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Originally Posted by
Promo
waco16, does your rifle also have a number on the left side of the stock at the rear?
No marks on the stock, Promo
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