M1 INLAND W/NO INTERNAL MARKS

[EddieM]

Hey fellows,

Its me again, just seen a M1 with the receiver marked as Inland, magcatch mark as EI, mag release mark as M, the rest of the parts with no marks incluiding the stock, barrel and internals. What do you think?

Thank you in advance

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[floydthecat]

Me thinks it has some commercial parts on and in it.

[DaveHH]

The trigger housing has the correct marking for a late part. Inland has some very light part stampings. The recoil plate will probably have a very faint DI on the hidden part for Dayton Racquet/Inland.
You have to really look closely. The marks are probably there you just aren't seeing them. I remember when BQ walked me through my Winchester, I had not seen anything and then there was light.
"EI" is probably Eaton Pond for Inland. The M on the mag catch is for not a makers mark.

[EddieM]

Me thinks it has some commercial parts on and in it.

Howdy Flythecat.
I think as you.
Regards
Eddie

[USGI]

The rear sight is very likely the original. As DaveHH mentioned, it says INLAND on the RH side of your trigger housing. Inland operating slides are usually marked on the inside of the "box." It looks like the barrel has been changed or "monkeyed" with. Does it have the "strange length" like your other carbine? - Bob

[EddieM]

The trigger housing has the correct marking for a late part. Inland has some very light part stampings. The recoil plate will probably have a very faint DI on the hidden part for Dayton Racquet/Inland.
You have to really look closely. The marks are probably there you just aren't seeing them. I remember when BQ walked me through my Winchester, I had not seen anything and then there was light.
"EI" is probably Eaton Pond for Inland. The M on the mag catch is for not a makers mark.

Hello Dave,

To find stock, barrel and internal parts marks I used as support my cel camera zoom 5X, so Im 99% pretty sure theres no more marks than the others that I had mention. In fact as you see in the pictures the color metal from the receiver is different than the other parts, the parts and the stock for my point of veiw seems to be pretty newer than the receiver.

Regards
Eddie

[EddieM]

The rear sight is very likely the original. As DaveHH mentioned, it says INLAND on the RH side of your trigger housing. Inland operating slides are usually marked on the inside of the "box." It looks like the barrel has been changed or "monkeyed" with. Does it have the "strange length" like your other carbine? - Bob

Hello Bob.

Dang I cant find the Inland mark in the trigger housing you mentioned.
The 6th picture is from the internal of the "box".
This carbine isn´t mine I would like to buy it ofcourse if it whorth it.
I couldnt measure the barrel but I can tell that for sure it isnt short as my M1 barrel.

Have a nice weekend
Eddie

[W5USMC]

The 6th picture is from the internal of the "box".

Eddie, your 6th picture is of the barrel flat not the inside of the box of the operating slide. You need to remove the slide to see inside of the box.

[USGI]

Dang I cant find the Inland mark in the trigger housing you mentioned

Eddie, it's pretty faint on yours. Look where I've put the yellow oval. - Bob

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[DaveHH]

Hello Dave,

To find stock, barrel and internal parts marks I used as support my cel camera zoom 5X, so Im 99% pretty sure theres no more marks than the others that I had mention. In fact as you see in the pictures the color metal from the receiver is different than the other parts, the parts and the stock for my point of veiw seems to be pretty newer than the receiver.

Regards
Eddie

With all due respect Eddie, you missed the Inland mark on the trigger housing. Inlands are finished as an assembled unit. An Inland barrel and receiver will have an almost black finish and will have a shadow at the point where the barrel enters the receiver, this is where the band is moved to before the final finish is applied. The top of the receiver will also be sand blasted and have another shadow visible on the side where the rough surface and smooth surfaces meet. The number is a #5.4 which is a mid to late 1944 carbine. The trigger housing Inland mark is vertical which makes it probably original to the gun. You may just have a mostly matching carbine that has had the barrel replaced. The stock has what appears to be a cartouche just forward of the oval slot. It could be a Winchester stock as many Win stocks have zero markings in the left side cut out. Regardless, the checkering makes it a nice oddity and a zero collectable. The barrel definitely doesn't look like an Inland. They have a swaged on gas cylinder and it has a very distinct
looking seal at the front of the gas cylinder. Your barrel is probably from some other company or place. Not all barrels are marked beyond a proof mark . NPM proofs with a single punch mark. A Winchester barrel can have a faint W and a very faint Win Proof. Have you disassembled the trigger group and checked the hammer, sear and recoil plate? My inland is also a 5.4 and has a recoil plate mark that is almost invisible.