Collectible M1 Inland

[USGI]

Charlie's trying to direct you to pictures of the Inland you requested. - Bob

[EddieM]

Nope, I am just the fortunate owner of "B" marked Underwood carbine with a Singer manufactured receiver. I stumbled upon it at my local gun store. I wasn't fortunate enough to find the Singer Colt however.

Howdy Singer,
Awsome Didn't knew that Singer were M1 parts maker.
Why it has a "B"?
Eddie

[Singer B]

Howdy Singer,
Awsome Didn't knew that Singer were M1 parts maker.
Why it has a "B"?
Eddie

From what I have read and researched, Underwood subcontracted Singer to make around 25,000 receivers for them. I believe that only one other sub-contracter made less receivers so they are kind of rare. It is just another one of those cool oddities that you find with M1 carbines due the large number of manufacturers and the subcontractors who supplied them. It is also indicative of why the USA is such a great country - when the chips are down, the country pulls together, accomplishes incredible things and overcomes the adversity. I think that is one reason so many.people like the M1 - it represents the best qualities and abilities of the USA.

[DaveHH]

I think he was asking if I used "Singer" in reference to the 500 1911A1's built by Singer and which are considered by some to be the "holy grails" of 1911's. Of course, if anyone has one for sale for less than 5,000, I will be happy to take it.....okay, 10,000......okay, I'll take out a second on the house for a 100,000.....

Then you'd find out that it is a fake....... I've seen one, 40 years ago. I'm more of a USS&S man myself if I was going out on that limb. We used to not even look at GI 1911s in the old days, They were cheap, very cheap and an Essex frame was looked at in the same way. Car guns. We would always buy those beautiful 50s,60s Commercial Colts for $200-225 a pop. Probably because we all had used the GI clunkers in VN. I never even bothered to look at which brand the pistol was, it was just a 45.

Those were the days. Free exchange of guns at a show. S&W 5 screw K22s for $200, 4 screw .22 Combat Masterpieces for $150.

[Singer B]

Yes sir, that would be my luck!!!

[EddieM]

@Singer B

I believe Eddy is talking about the Inland with the cut down barrel and Mid rear sight, he posted here:
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=73278

The Mexican Pimp Carbine

Hola Carlito,
You´re right compadre, that was my 1st post.
Eddie

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I think he was asking if I used "Singer" in reference to the 500 1911A1's built by Singer and which are considered by some to be the "holy grails" of 1911's. Of course, if anyone has one for sale for less than 5,000, I will be happy to take it.....okay, 10,000......okay, I'll take out a second on the house for a 100,000.....

Hey Singer,
Charlie is right, he´s showing you my post about my 6 digit Inland.
And yes you´re right too about if I asked about if you use "Singer" regarding to the 19911A1 made by Singer.
Eddie

[jimb16]

Why the B? I think they made the receivers at their Bridgeport plant.

[painter777]

I think they made the receivers at their Bridgeport plant.

Hi Jim,
You've probably seen Dan's write up of Underwood Subcontractors, I'll Link it below for others to read.
The B was a likely Theory to being made in Bridgeport.

Quoting Dan's Excellent article:

"Singer Manufacturing Company, Bridgeport CT, was given the fourth set of numbers in Underwood’s second block. The S code was now taken by United Shoe Machinery Corporation. M was not feasible for Manufacturing as most companies had the words manufacturing or machinery in their names. Also, M was in use for Marlin Firearms Company. It has been theorized that B could have been for Bridgeport. The problem with this is that no other code matched a city of the subcontractor, and then why not B for Brooklyn where Intertype was located.

It is more reasonable that B was the first available letter not yet used. To follow the theory of alphabetical letter assignments the A would have had to be assigned before Singer received their contract."

Underwood Subcntractors A-Z - The Carbine Collector's Club

HTH,

[Singer B]

Hi Jim,
You've probably seen Dan's write up of Underwood Subcontractors, I'll Link it below for others to read.
The B was a likely Theory to being made in Bridgeport.

Quoting Dan's Excellent article:

"Singer Manufacturing Company, Bridgeport CT, was given the fourth set of numbers in Underwood’s second block. The S code was now taken by United Shoe Machinery Corporation. M was not feasible for Manufacturing as most companies had the words manufacturing or machinery in their names. Also, M was in use for Marlin Firearms Company. It has been theorized that B could have been for Bridgeport. The problem with this is that no other code matched a city of the subcontractor, and then why not B for Brooklyn where Intertype was located.

It is more reasonable that B was the first available letter not yet used. To follow the theory of alphabetical letter assignments the A would have had to be assigned before Singer received their contract."

Underwood Subcntractors A-Z - The Carbine Collector's Club

HTH,

Always cool to learn new things! Thanks!

[painter777]

Always cool to learn new things!

Yea,
But trying to remember is a B!tch,