Sirius Dog Sled Patrol m1917

[pickax]

Sounds like some body maybe higher up made a decision to sell these off to CAI instead of destruction? Because it did happen. Would be great if you could find the rest of the story.
I don't follow the auctions much any more, but have not seen any Dane use '17s in years. Canadian yes though occasionally.
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Nice to have your perspective from Denmark, please keep us posted on what you find. My main reference have been the threads here, CMP forums and Nick Ferris book, which has a small chapter on these '17s. United states rifle model of 1917 by CS Ferris
Here is the thread on CMP forums as I was sorting out this rifle. Winchester 1917 for review - CMP Forums


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[PeterN]

I have one of the ex Danish US Model of 1917 rifles. A dealer here in the UK had a few in stock, probably 20 plus, back in the 1990s. He told me they had come from Greenland but they are ex Danish. Mine has the sighting sticker and the notch cut out in the receiver. I was told the notch is to cater for a long heavy hunting bullet to use against Polar Bears by the Sirius Patrol. Mine has an S stamped in the stock under the bolt handle. The bolt number has been re-stamped on the other side. It is a matching number bolt.
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Regards
Peter.

[pickax]

The notched receiver is thought to be a Norwegian modification, as they used a self designed
stripper clip for loading. This clip pushed the bullet tip forward a bit.
Your rifle likely came from England to Norway then in 1959 13000 rifles sent from Norway to the Danish home guard. Now full circle back to you. Very cool!

some discussion here trying to figure out the notch.
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=61830
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=13094

[Mbechmann]

Sounds like some body maybe higher up made a decision to sell these off to CAI instead of destruction? Because it did happen. Would be great if you could find the rest of the story.
I don't follow the auctions much any more, but have not seen any Dane use '17s in years. Canadian yes though occasionally.
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Nice to have your perspective from Denmark, please keep us posted on what you find. My main reference have been the threads here, CMP forums and Nick Ferris book, which has a small chapter on these '17s. United states rifle model of 1917 by CS Ferris
Here is the thread on CMP forums as I was sorting out this rifle. Winchester 1917 for review - CMP Forums


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The guy I am talking very close to that guy. Thats the problem. He knew exactly how many rifles went to Greenland. So there is no way this would happen without this guy knowing about it. He also knew exactly who destroyed these rifles.

I have one of the ex Danish US Model of 1917 rifles. A dealer here in the UK had a few in stock, probably 20 plus, back in the 1990s. He told me they had come from Greenland but they are ex Danish. Mine has the sighting sticker and the notch cut out in the receiver. I was told the notch is to cater for a long heavy hunting bullet to use against Polar Bears by the Sirius Patrol. Mine has an S stamped in the stock under the bolt handle. The bolt number has been re-stamped on the other side. It is a matching number bolt.
Attachment 117640Attachment 117639
Regards
Peter.

The notched receiver is thought to be a Norwegian modification, as they used a self designed
stripper clip for loading. This clip pushed the bullet tip forward a bit.
Your rifle likely came from England to Norway then in 1959 13000 rifles sent from Norway to the Danish home guard. Now full circle back to you. Very cool!

some discussion here trying to figure out the notch.
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=61830
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=13094

Peter, Pickax is correct. Technically they are Danish, as it was one of the last shipment of 13000 rifles Norway shipped to Denmark in 1959. The guy I am talking to, also confirmed that the notch was made to use bigger rounds, but they also had to change the ejector spring and charging rail. So it is not just the notch they changed.

That being said, you do bring up a very good point. If your rifle comes from Greenland, it is technically Danish bought from Denmark, but it would have been bought from the Royal Greenlandic Trading Company.

This is very interesting because another Danish source said that the trading company received "the rest of the Norwegian rifles". So what if, the trading company only choose to change 5000 rifles for Greenland, but what if they actually received more rifles than that? That would make sense. I will ask my friend about that.

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The notched receiver is thought to be a Norwegian modification, as they used a self designed
stripper clip for loading. This clip pushed the bullet tip forward a bit.
Your rifle likely came from England to Norway then in 1959 13000 rifles sent from Norway to the Danish home guard. Now full circle back to you. Very cool!

some discussion here trying to figure out the notch.
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=61830
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=13094

The guy I am talking very close to that guy. Thats the problem. He knew exactly how many rifles went to Greenland. So there is no way this would happen without this guy knowing about it. He also knew exactly who destroyed these rifles.





Peter, Pickax is correct. Technically they are Danish, as it was one of the last shipment of 13000 rifles Norway shipped to Denmark in 1959. The guy I am talking to, also confirmed that the notch was made to use bigger rounds, but they also had to change the ejector spring and charging rail. So it is not just the notch they changed.

That being said, you do bring up a very good point. If your rifle comes from Greenland, it is technically Danish bought from Denmark, but it would have been bought from the Royal Greenlandic Trading Company.

This is very interesting because another Danish source said that the trading company received "the rest of the Norwegian rifles". So what if, the trading company only choose to change 5000 rifles for Greenland, but what if they actually received more rifles than that? That would make sense. I will ask my friend about that.

Could you do me a favor? Take a picture of the front sight? Is it flat, like the US models, or is it actually a small pipe thats in it?