No. 4 MK I T Sporter *PICS*

[Daan Kemp]

Thanks Cinders.

I doubt the brass butt plate would reflect in sniper use. Snipers shouldn't be where their equipment reflects anything and the butt plate should be tight against the shoulder.

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[Surpmil]

Thanks Cinders.

I doubt the brass butt plate would reflect in sniper use. Snipers shouldn't be where their equipment reflects anything and the butt plate should be tight against the shoulder.

So they shouldn't be out in the sun then? And keep the butt into the shoulder when crawling?

[browningautorifle]

So they shouldn't be out in the sun then?

Read one of the military pamphlets and you'll see exactly what they tell you about staying in shadows and such. It ain't like on television.

[CINDERS]

It ain't like on television.

They TV & Hollywood often portray the hero though seriously wounded and having crawled a million miles wins the day, in all reality if one is in a conflict you'll only make one mistake.
Literature I have on my shelves emphasises the skill a sniper has to have patience beyond virtue and observation retention skills like a hawk coupled with a cast iron will to keep above any adversity they may encounter and from some of the do's I have read about are a force multiplier.
Hathcock and his observer kept a group of VC pinned down in a paddy field for a considerable length of time taking a heavy toll of those that risked a look or rabbit bolted for the fence line. Showing in effect with concealment and movement as they were copping some intense fire from the VC that the snipers were in control of that zone until they lit out of there.

I am nearly though the book "Backs To The Wall" By G D Mitchell, in this book I have taken a whole new appreciation of what the WWI soldier had to contend with Mitchell is the first person writer, its not embellished with glorious deeds but the stark realness of being one step from the grave, he did receive the MM and a battlefield commission.
He at one point came back to his troops to find one chaps nerves completely rattled and well he might have been as he had been buried 3 times that day by shell fire and dug out by his mates, another has Mitchell in a captured pill box as he said zeroed to the inch by the Germans artillery.
He had only just got inside when a artillery round struck near the doorway blowing them all flat inside after the dust had settled he went outside where four other chaps had been, they were just a mess of what used to some of his charges, other times he has details from his diary he kept.
The soft cover is available on line allot cheaper than the 1st Ed H/C I have.

[Surpmil]

Read one of the military pamphlets and you'll see exactly what they tell you about staying in shadows and such. It ain't like on television.

Don't watch television so can't help you there, but did correspond with a chap who was a sniper on Crete and he was out in the sun plenty.

I own the pams back to 1951, but pams are no more than that.

[browningautorifle]

did correspond with a chap who was a sniper on Crete

The difference here is we (trying to tell you) did sniper training and were in the units like Recce and Snipers...and the books give you direction. You discount pams but have no background. We ain't passing second hand info. I personally was in a sniper team overseas in '75. Some of these guys did lots of it.