Maybe a K98k Optic

[Micheal Doyne]

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I have virtually no Mauser knowledge. I collect British military small arms, particularly sniper variants. I got over-excited on eBay and acquired the attached. It claimed to be a WWII ZF39 for a K98k. To me the rails on the tube look different to photos of actual WWII optics. Maybe one of you guys could kindly let me know what I have got, and if it could legitimately be added to a k98k. More photos to follow.

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[Micheal Doyne]

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[Micheal Doyne]

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[AGB-1]

zf39 scope for k98 mauser - Bing images

I think yours is for a sporter application.

[browningautorifle]

Here's one for reference. Not much info though. https://www.vintagegunscopes.com/rar...ry-good-c-1953

Here's a nice one that sold for comparison. Hensoldt Wetzlar Dural-Dialytan 4X scope #19706 in fine condition with fine optics. Est.: $200-$400.


Yours doesn't seem to be Waffenampt though...sporter maybe?

[Flying10uk]

Ref 3rd pic; The German abréviation for "number" is "Nr." (nummer) not No.. You can see this, Nr., on the pic on Jim's first link.

[Micheal Doyne]

Ok, so a sporting mount, numbers that suggest uk or us market, pretty conclusively not a German wwii scope. Inapprocafe this mount type is not standard for a K98, but my understanding is the use of ZF39 scopes was a trifle adhoc. Is anyone aware of this type being used ever, or am I really flogging a dead horse?

[Flying10uk]

The good thing about eBay is that it is quite easy for "the buyer" to get their money back, if they are not happy with their purchase, but don't expect the vendor to be overly pleased. Always keep any communication with the vendor polite and civilised, even if the vendor is not with you, because if eBay have to step in to settle the matter the first thing that they are likely to do is to read all the communication between both parties.

[Micheal Doyne]

Thanks, it is more from an interest point of view; I bid thinking the description was wrong/ambitious. It has cost me £80. I intend to own a ZF39 scoped K98 at some point. I currently service my British optics, so even if it is a sunk cost to learn some new internals, that is fine with me. If the service is successful and has no place on a k98, I will see it; if I can't recover it spares are always useful.

[Surpmil]

The dovetail rail is a dead giveaway of post WWII origins. Otherwise the design is much the same as the pre-war/wartime Hensoldt Duralyts, though I don't believe the aluminum alloy tube model was accepted for military service, except perhaps towards the end of the war as an emergency use.
If you want definitive answers on German scopes there are some experts here who can and probably will help.
The "ZF39" was the Zeiss Zielvier with metre graduations. AFAIK, there was no other difference.
The Zielvier entered production in the early 1920s I believe. The earlier ones have a flat top to the drum saddle and the glass is SUPERB.
You'll hunt long and hard for an original, but the Chinese replicas appear to be excellent value, though I have no idea if the internals are actually the same design as the originals.
Warren, have you been into any of them?