The Negatives of Collecting Milsurps

[Aragorn243]

I found a movie that looked good, had some war movie "stars" I recognized so I started to watch it. It was called a Company of Heroes.

Lots of action right off the bat, a rather bloody affair, a bit excessive IMHO. I'm really not paying that close attention to the rifles at first but there is a sniper and he's carrying something very weird with a weirder scope on it. This catches my attention and I go into ID mode. Appears to be a modified SVT-40 with a cheap 22 rimfire scope and mount on it. So now I'm irritated and start paying attention to the rifles. For the record, this is supposed to be a US infantry outfit in the Ardennes in December of 44 at the start of the battle of the Bulge. They are carrying British No 4 rifles and I swear I saw one with a No III but it was so fast I wasn't sure.

Back to the sniper rifle. He touches the scope with the front of his helmet and the scope moved about half an inch. Did this twice. He then is operating the bolt after each shot. That was it, I turned it off.

Seems I can no longer enjoy mindless military violence.

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[CINDERS]

I just enjoy watching all the mistakes and inaccuracies the directors and pros get wrong, like saving private Ryan whilst a good movie the Tiger was anything but.
Along with the so called Hathcock shot of the German sniper, the thing with Carlo's shot in VN it was real and actually happened if you know the story behind his shot then you'll know that the VC sniper was a cunning dude and almost had the drop on Carlos even if he did put a hole in his spotters canteen!

Along with the Seige of Jacksonoville the sniper rifle with just a single post and a single shot from the bren as a sniper weapon, bayonets that the blade wobbles like rubber as they run but I do know that they try to portray actual events thing is they can only get so much realism into a film, but I still enjoy them.

I've been watching a few Russian movies on WWII their scripts are almost like a real war I for one would not want to be a stunt man on their sets as they do have rather large explosions and not CGI'ed either but I hear what your saying Aragorn.

[Aragorn243]

I don't mind the tanks so much. After all, it's a tank and not many survived and those that did are mostly in museums so they don't bother me so much. But the rifles I really notice anymore.

I did watch a good movie that had a couple of things that I wondered about but it was still good. This one was called "The Forgotten Battle" and was in a mix of English, German and Dutch.

The one thing that stood out other than the awesome British paratrooper helmets which I had to buy a repro after seeing the film was that this British paratrooper ended up separated from his unit and other members of his squad and wound up with a Canadian unit. They fit him up in a new uniform, not sure what was wrong with the one he was in other than being wet but they put him in a Canadian uniform and swapped his No 4 for an MK III. Seemed unusual that they did that rather than send him along to the British but supposedly the Canadians were the only ones in this location. This particular movie wasn't super accurate but it wasn't blatantly bad either and I enjoyed it.

[Bob Womack]

When you figure out it is a rubber gun by the closed stacking swivel.



Now, get off my lawn.

Bob

[Singer B]

I loved watching John Wayne's Winchesters bend when he would hit people with them. The most amazing part was how accurate they were after all of that bending!!

[Flying10uk]

I tend to prefer the older war films some of which were made in the war or not long after the end of WW2. Some of the more recent war films are ok but many don't seem to "cut the mustard" when compared to the older films.

[Bob Womack]

I loved watching John Wayne's Winchesters bend when he would hit people with them. The most amazing part was how accurate they were after all of that bending!!

He favored the M1892, and collected several to use on set. As it turned out, they were great rifles to load blanks for because they used pistol caliber rounds. Her preferred the carbine version. I inherited from my father an M1892 sporting model with a factory upgrade octagonal barrel.



More HERE.

Bob

[ssgross]

When you figure out it is a rubber gun by the closed stacking swivel.

I doubt you could get a wrench in the gas plug either.

[CINDERS]

Lets not forget the extended cylinder capacity of those westerns revolvers when after a half a movies shooting rampage it is decided by our hero cowboy to put another 6 rounds in there and carry on again for the other half of the movie.

[Mk VII]

We are going to be seeing a lot more plastic guns in the movies, if a certain trending news item is any guide.