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    Total rifle length, so your measurement is 45 7/8 ", mine is 46 3/8 inch. You may have to remeasure so we are measuring from the same spots & manner. See photo for consistency in measuring method.
    Total stock length, so your measurement is 42 3/8 ", mine is 42 3/4 inch. Likewise, be sure we measure from the same points. see photo.

    So if you remeasure in the same manner from the same points what did you get?
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    C S Ferris in the book United Statesicon Rifle Model of 1917, 2004 on page 65, the start of Chapter 6, Differences in the Model 1917 indicates 11 rifles in the authors collection ..." standing vertically side by side in a rack, appeared to be of slightly different lengths..." the rifle had parts that did not interchange and he goes on in chapter 6. The rifle show providing my measurements is the Eddy with all original parts & cartouches. It has a rebuild cartouche.
    the book offers no specifications table of barrel and stock measurements.

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    same same. Can you advise me the length between band edges of your upper and lower handguards? I suspect my lower handguard has been shortened due to use of the wrong handguard band.
    Stupid question...are the P14 and M1917 stocks the same overall measurements?

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    Well, this is unfortunate. Either I replace the barrel and lower handguard, or I shorten the stock and upper handguard and replace the lower handguard and live with a non-standard rifle! Bummer!

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    Well, this is unfortunate, but your conclusions are unavoidable. Either I replace the barrel and lower handguard, or I shorten the stock and upper handguard and replace the lower handguard and live with a non-standard rifle! Bummer!

    I think I already know the answer, but is there any history of barrels being shortened in this way by an armory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1903Collector View Post
    I shorten the stock and upper handguard
    That'll never work out. Just hunt down a decent barrel and send it to Chuckindenver for changing. He won't leave any marks either when he does it. https://www.milsurps.com/member.php?u=5812

    If you post a WTB hereabouts in the correct forum someone may hand you a barrel too. Maybe Chuck has one...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1903Collector View Post
    I think I already know the answer, but is there any history of barrels being shortened in this way by an armory?
    No, they don't do that.
    Regards, Jim

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    Ill post a WTB. Id rather spend the money and restore the thing to mil spec than alter, and though it is and will be for some time on display at the Texas Veteran Museum here in Denton, Ill just have to hope no one notices it is altered

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    libertytreecollectors have original hand guards:
    see https://www.libertytreecollectors.co...idCategory=108


    Neat that you do displays at local museums, I still do schools on vet days, but no firearms are allowed. I hope you get your rifle back to original.
    most of my USMC stuff:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1903Collector View Post
    and though it is and will be for some time on display at the Texas Veteran Museum here in Denton
    Well now, if the end result desired is wall hanging that changes everything. You should be able to find an original barrel pretty cheap, if you don't care about the condition of the bore. Post in the WTB. A lot of people here are doing the opposite...putting a good bore on a shot out one to make an authentic shooter, and have the old one lying on the shelf.

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