+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: SRS check on Springfield 03 with USMC traits

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Legacy Member cplstevennorton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-05-2025 @ 09:17 AM
    Location
    Van Wert, OH
    Age
    45
    Posts
    377
    Local Date
    07-14-2025
    Local Time
    09:13 PM
    Yeah the last time the Marines received new service rifles was about 1918. In 1919 they received barreled receivers, but not complete rifles. After 1918, the only complete rifles they received were the National Match rifles. Which were very small in number.

    In the 1920's they did get some more barreled receivers, swapping a likewise same amount of barreled receivers back to RIA. I think this is where all those high number RIA's came in personally.

    The Marines stopped receiving loose barreled receivers about 1927, and after this date did not get any different receivers until the Navy sent at least 35,000 and possibly up to 50,000 in early 1942.

    But the docs detail the Navy rifles were basically the ones that the Navy had used and abused in training and they all needed rebuilt.

    I think if I remember right it elludes these were the rifles that were used to train recruits at a training facility such as the Great Lakes or something like that, and the Navy was like we don't need rifles that can shoot to train our men, so they freed them up for the Marines.

    The most logical way a 1.51 could have came into the Marines was as a NM. But even that it is very unlikely as there was a break of when the Marines bought new National Match rifles, and there was a controversy that happened in 1928 that would make it very unlikely the Marines would have got a 1.51 serial range in any of their NM shipments.

    It's sort of a longer story than this cliffnote version, but it's so rare to find any Marine rifle above the 1.03 serial range.

    Honestly the Navy rifles that I've seen serials on were usually WWI or earlier serials as well.

    But I mean it sort of makes sense on why this would be when you think about it. The Army only produced receivers past the early 20's, to swap with their low numbers they were rebuilding. They didn't produce receivers to build new rifles other than the NM or sales rifles.

    So that is why I have always thought you really only see WWI or earlier serials in the Marines and Navy. Because all the higher serial ranges the Army was making were going internal to swap with their low number receivers on rifles going in for rebuild
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. #2
    Legacy Member RCS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 08:51 PM
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    4,474
    Real Name
    Robert Seccombe
    Local Date
    07-14-2025
    Local Time
    09:13 PM
    Some time around the fall of 1961 or 1962, I knew a man who worked part-time at Klein's Sporting Goods warehouse in Chicago while attending college.
    There was a big advertised sale of hi number 1903 rifle for $34.95 each, which was a good price and he told they received a few hundred 1903 rifles
    for the weekend sale. He had a chance to look these rifles over before the sale, he was looking for star gaged marked muzzles from National Match
    rifles but unable to find any - but he did find two rifles with USMC stamps a a circle s stamp and bought them. The first one was s/n 1031506 with a
    circle s 9-41 dated barrel which he later sold to me. The other rifle was s/n 1,279,085 with a Sedgely USMC 9-42 dated barrel with wrench marks.
    The bolt was marked NS and the receiver had the Hatcher hole. the stock was a C with drawing number D-1836 with a heavy checkered butt plate.
    This man is retired now and living in Flordia but still owns the rifle.

  3. Thank You to RCS For This Useful Post:


+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. USMC built Springfield ??????????????
    By tdarmo in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-03-2014, 11:46 PM
  2. USMC rebuilt Springfield ????????????
    By tdarmo in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-30-2014, 11:21 PM
  3. Rock Island '03 SRS check? USMC characteristics
    By M1941 in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-28-2013, 01:47 PM
  4. WRA Carbine Stock Traits
    By painter777 in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-10-2013, 10:42 PM
  5. '03 Springfield Picture of the Day-USMC
    By CapnJohn in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-10-2009, 09:39 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts