Seems M1 Carbine prices have dipped a bit.

[browningautorifle]

Too, there must be some carbines around that AREN'T collector value, just shooters or build from a high number receiver... Personally though, I'd probably buy one of the pre made 9mm guns. They would be fun except here they're so restricted and on the edge of outlawed they aren't worth the consideration.

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[floydthecat]

Too, there must be some carbines around that AREN'T collector value, just shooters or build from a high number receiver... Personally though, I'd probably buy one of the pre made 9mm guns. They would be fun except here they're so restricted and on the edge of outlawed they aren't worth the consideration.

I have other pistol caliber carbines and like them all. The converted M1 carbine brings along with it gas operation just like big brother. Don’t have the extra weight of the mass required to safely shoot 9mm in blow-back. All the components are USGI. Nothing added nothing deleted. Yes….commercial carbines could be converted the same way.

[browningautorifle]

I have other pistol caliber carbines and like them all.

I had a AR in 9mm and a Beretta Storm as well as a Roni micro for my Glock 22 in .40 cal. I enjoyed all of them, they would all have a place in the order of battle, use within reason. The 9mm carbines never really made a dent here, the Ruger PC Carbine has sure filled a lot of spots since it came out though. I just can't see why some are idolizing it though here. They want as much as $2000CDN for one now. I WOULD have had one in caliber .40 if they'd come to Canada.

[usabaker]

The 9mm carbines never really made a dent here, the Ruger PC Carbine has sure filled a lot of spots since it came out though. I just can't see why some are idolizing it though here. They want as much as $2000CDN for one now.

I never bought a 9mm rilfe because there are a bunch of other rifles I would rather have. Although the Henry Homesteader 9mm in the American Walnut stock has been a temptation.

[browningautorifle]

the Henry Homesteader 9mm

Looks OK, the model with the can would be neat. Mages look specific which is a deliberate blade to us instead of making it take a choice of mags like Ruger.

[usabaker]

Mages look specific which is a deliberate blade to us instead of making it take a choice of mags like Ruger.

Ruger can only use its native mags and its adapter for Glock 17 &18 Mags. The Henery comes with its native mag and adapters Glock, Sig Sauer, or Smith & Wesson magazines. Not that any of that would matter to me because I don't own a Glock, and doubt I would use any of my handgun mags with the rifle. I tend to buy mags just for the firearm.

[browningautorifle]

Ruger can only use its native mags and its adapter for Glock 17 &18 Mags.

Well...yes. If you actually compare you can find a couple others that adapt easily. The M&P S&W mags go right in.

You may need to add the mag catch hole but that's nothing. Like changing mags between PT99 and Beretta 92/96. Just a bit of careful work. Also the hi cap Glock mags and drums make those Rugers way better.

[Low & Slow]

I picked up one of the Rugers, as I ran into a deal on one. It's fun, and cheap to shoot, but way too heavy for what it is. It's basically an up-sized 10-22. I made things worse by cobbling a PPsh 41 stock onto it. That is really heavy. I did get the necessary conversion bits cheap, and can switch it back to the original chassis version in minutes, so I don't feel too guilty.

[browningautorifle]

but way too heavy for what it is

Yes it is. That's the blowback mass of the bolt at fault.

[floydthecat]

I picked up one of the Rugers, as I ran into a deal on one. It's fun, and cheap to shoot, but way too heavy for what it is.

Any blow-back is going to be heavier than an M1 carbine, even a trimmed-down AR9. I have a trimmed-down AR9 that weighs in a tad over 6-pounds, but you can still feel the difference.