Mystery bracket

[Neuraleanus]

As I'm still figuring out the use of iron sights, the acquisition of a scope is deferred. For now at least, I replaced the MkII sight with a Parker Hale:

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All that is left of the scope mount is the front bracket and I'll just leave that as it is.

[browningautorifle]

You'll find the Parker Hale sights are great to use.

[Surpmil]

Make sure you keep the knob on the elevation quick release tightened down.

[Promo]

You might be interested to learn that this rifle originates from the Bob Faris collection. Ian has had it listed in the Faris collection with tag number 198. His notes say "not considered to be ex-service", his description says "Factory Savage No.4 with German style tip-off mounts". As others have already indicated these are also very common for Mannlicher-Schönauer rifles.

[Neuraleanus]

You might be interested to learn that this rifle originates from the Bob Faris collection. Ian has had it listed in the Faris collection with tag number 198. His notes say "not considered to be ex-service", his description says "Factory Savage No.4 with German style tip-off mounts". As others have already indicated these are also very common for Mannlicher-Schönauer rifles.

That is interesting. I purchased this rifle at the Central Wisconsin Collector's Gun Show. I was looking for a No 4, Mk 1* and this was the only one there.

By the way, proper screws for the Parker Hale arrived today:







The original scope bracket may be easily put back if I ever decide to find the required parts and rings. I have downloaded the PH5C manual from this site though the resolution isn't all that great.

[Alan de Enfield]

Rather than going for the 'short bolt' mounting (at the rear of the PH5C that goes thru the original rear sight mounting holes) you have gone for the full length bolt.

This can cause problems, unless you have put a lock nut 'inside' the original mounting.

It is VERY easy to overtighten that rear bolt and with very little effort you can get it tight enough to distort the rifle body and trap / pinch the bolt. (Don't ask me how I know !)

So I changed it over to the short-bolt.

I found that going for the 'short bolt' option had no effect on the rifle, no apparent 'spreading under load' of the body, and allowed me to clamp the sight up nice and tight so there was no movement.

[Sapper740]

Rather than going for the 'short bolt' mounting (at the rear of the PH5C that goes thru the original rear sight mounting holes) you have gone for the full length bolt.

This can cause problems, unless you have put a lock nut 'inside' the original mounting.

It is VERY easy to overtighten that rear bolt and with very little effort you can get it tight enough to distort the rifle body and trap / pinch the bolt. (Don't ask me how I know !)

So I changed it over to the short-bolt.

I found that going for the 'short bolt' option had no effect on the rifle, no apparent 'spreading under load' of the body, and allowed me to clamp the sight up nice and tight so there was no movement.

Alan, is there an acknowledged inch/lb. setting for a torque screw driver to prevent the clamping effect but also prevent loosening of the long screw? I am about to mount a picatinny rail on my Long Branch that uses a long screw to help secure the mount.

[Neuraleanus]

I found that going for the 'short bolt' option had no effect on the rifle, no apparent 'spreading under load' of the body, and allowed me to clamp the sight up nice and tight so there was no movement.

The bolt seems to be working fine with the long bolt, but I'll keep this idea in mind. I have more screws that I could cut.

[Alan de Enfield]

Alan, is there an acknowledged inch/lb. setting for a torque screw driver to prevent the clamping effect but also prevent loosening of the long screw? I am about to mount a picatinny rail on my Long Branch that uses a long screw to help secure the mount.

None that I ever found, it was just a case of trial and error - tighten a bit, does the bolt run freely, tighten a bit, does the bolt run freely ............................. tighten a bit, bolt is binding so back off a fraction, does the blt now run freely ?

If you put the long bolt thru the RH side hole, then put another nut on it, push the bolt thru the left hand hole, and tighten the nut up until it touches the inside edge of the LH side hole. Back it out, fit the sight, thread and tighten the bolt up until it is tight and the LH side of the body is trapped betwen the 'lock nut' and the sight bracket.
No compression on the body and the sight is tightly clamped.

Easier to do than to describe.

Then I just decided to use he 'short bolt' method.

[browningautorifle]

Then I just decided to use he 'short bolt' method.

Exactly.