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25 Nov 2024 Garand Picture of the Day
This one was taken during a visit by South Korean President Park Chung Hee in 1968. The M1
Garand here has been fitted with the AN/PAS-4.This was a pretty old system, and quite cumbersome when used with the large clunky light source.
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CIA in the background with M65 over his suit and an Uzi clutched at his hip.
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I've got Edwin Tunis' book Weapons, that traces the history of... well... weapons through a narrative and excellent sketches. Towards the end of the book he sketched a guy aiming an M1 carbine through this system.
Bob
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Originally Posted by
Bob Womack
I've got Edwin Tunis' book
Weapons, that traces the history of... well...
weapons through a narrative and excellent sketches. Towards the end of the book he sketched a guy aiming an
M1 carbine through this system.
Bob
I think that is the system on the table.
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Interesting Carbine laying on the table appears to be mounting a AN/PVS2 Starlight scope.
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In my 20's I worked with a guy that was trained on that system mounted to a carbine in Korea. He hated every minute of it. Had to go out on every night patrol while everyone else rotated. It weighed a ton even on the carbine and the battery was a "sealed" lead acid car battery. When I asked why a carbine and not a Garand he told me most guys couldn't lift it to their shoulder to aim it mounted on a Garand which they had a set up at the school. He also said it wasn't worth the effort because you couldn't really see at long range so the Garand advantage was nullified.
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I had that complete system in a Micarta case. The guy who flew in to buy my two ONE OF NINE rifles saw it and had to have it. IIRC I sold it to him for $5,000.
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Originally Posted by
oldfoneguy
it wasn't worth the effort
We had things like that for the FN, the PVS 502...although far ahead of these systems it was worthless mostly. Carrying the weapon with it mounted was impossible and they didn't zero reliably. All you could promise was to give your position away by firing at night. I saw the older infra red systems, we still had them. Very cumbersome and far out of date yet still they existed.
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