In a similar vein: Back in the 1986 Edition of The Gun Digest they published the results of the .30 Apache, a .223 Remington case necked up to .30 caliber. Designed by Joe Apache the wildcat cartridge achieved some measure of success as a metallic silhouette cartridge. It is loaded with either a 168-grain match bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2190 fps or the 190-grain Hornady match bullet at 2100 fps. A 150-grain bullet was also loaded and developed 2250 fps. Although intended as a silhouette cartridge, the performance with the 190-grain bullet closely approximates the ballistics of the old .303 Savage, which was, in its day, considered a good deer and black bear cartridge for hunting in the bush or woods. A 150-grain bullet at 2250 fps just about duplicates the .30-30 Winchester.