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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    Yes it was mine.

    As you can see you can have a number '0' that is larger than a number '3' so specifying I want a 'number 3' is pointless, it is important to specify the actual measurement you need.
    Just to clarify slightly Togor, if that's needed: the reason bolt heads can be found with such widely varying or inconsistent measurements relative to their marked lengths is mostly due to previous grinding and lapping by owners or armourers, rather than poor QC in manufacture.

    Generally speaking you can be pretty confident that the 0,1,2,3 size marking does indeed reflect a longer bolthead, but by exactly how much? The original size difference was 0.003" between each number.

    Civilian owners including myself, tend to want the bolt to just close over the "0.064" GO gauge, but anything between 0.064" and 0.074" was considered acceptable so there was little need to grind boltheads unless as the manual says, the bolt would not close over the 0.064" GO gauge.

    There's really no substitute for the correct gauges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Just to clarify slightly Togor, if that's needed: the reason bolt heads can be found with such widely varying or inconsistent measurements relative to their marked lengths is mostly due to previous grinding and lapping by owners or armourers, rather than poor QC in manufacture.





    That would certainly account for 'undersize' bolt heads but not 'oversize' (outside of the expected) bolt heads.



    What Size Should The Bolt Heads Be ?

    It seems to be generally accepted that No4 / No5 bolt heads should fall in the following range :
    Size 0 = 0.620” – 0.625”
    Size 1 = 0.625” – 0.630”
    Size 2 = 0.630” – 0.635”
    Size 3 = 0.635” – 0.640”

    Whilst I don’t question that this information is printed somewhere, I have not been able to find the original source, the information I have found does not actually state the ‘starting’ dimension, only that the sizes are incrementally larger :

    a) From “Parts Identification List Rifle No4 Mk1 and Mk1*” dated 1945
    Bolt head 0 part number BB8584
    Bolt head 1 part number BB8585
    Bolt head 2 part number BB8586
    Bolt head 3 part number BB8587

    “Number 0 to 3 increase in length by increments of 0.003 inch”

    b) From Canadianicon National Defence Manual “First Line Maintenance Instructions Rifle No4, all marks” dated 28th June 2002

    Bolt head size 0 NSN = 1005-21-103-1143
    Bolt head size 1 NSN = 1005-21-103-1144
    Bolt head size 2 NSN = 1005-21-103-1145
    Bolt head size 3 NSN = 1005-21-103-1146

    “…….. the sizes being progressively larger in increments of 0.08mm (0.003”)


    What I cannot find in any document is the 'starting size' of the #0 bolt head such that the 0.003" incremental increase per number can be referenced.
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