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    There's still confusion to this day over the rimmed .303 Savage produced in 1895 and the rimless .300 Savage produced a quarter of a century later. Both fire .308" bullets but the less powerful .303 Savage was a failed attempt by Savage to produce a military cartridge. Savage 99 rifles were/are very popular in Canadaicon and over the years I owned three of them: a .22 Savage High Power, a .300 Savage, and a .284 Winchester. I took a lot of game with the .284 and enjoyed it and other lever action rifles due to also being right-handed but left-eye dominant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    There's still confusion to this day over the rimmed .303 Savage produced in 1895 and the rimless .300 Savage produced a quarter of a century later. Both fire .308" bullets but the less powerful .303 Savage was a failed attempt by Savage to produce a military cartridge. Savage 99 rifles were/are very popular in Canadaicon and over the years I owned three of them: a .22 Savage High Power, a .300 Savage, and a .284 Winchester. I took a lot of game with the .284 and enjoyed it and other lever action rifles due to also being right-handed but left-eye dominant.

    That is my understanding, but Rick confused me by calling the "American 303" (Savage) Britishicon 303, when they are dimensionally miles apart.

    Hopefully that will clear up any confusion for future readers of the thread who think they can use "good ole 'merican manfactured" Savage 303 in a Lee enfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    also being right-handed but left-eye dominant
    Welcome! there aren't many of us. I bet you can shoot right handed also just as well, even if it feels a bit unnatural. My left eye dominance is very slight, but habits like shooting left handed, playing pool left handed, etc. are turned into stone when we are young. My son turned out left handed, and right eye dominant. He looks painfully awkward and unnatural shooting right or left handed, but gets it on target and usually holds a tight group.
    I did build a custom LH Remington 700 for f-class and, to tell you the truth, I never really liked it. The bolt is long enough one needs to come off anyway or be hit in the mouth, so it's not all as convenient as I hoped. I could see enjoying a LH 22lr, but I usually load one round at a time and it sure is more convenient to be looking into the chamber without moving. I did see a custom shop making 700 pattern actions offering LH bolt with right hand ejection, but I couldn't justify the price tag at the time.
    Sorry for being far off topic.

    That PPU brass is indeed readily available, but right now at Grafs (usually one of the cheapest places) its .83-.87 per round, and that HXP just cost me .81 per round. Given the cost of primers and powder, I think I just made out pretty good.
    In the past, I have used HXP 30-06 with much improvement after pulling, dumping and re-metering the charges before matches. I would NOT do this for loose rounds of unknown/mixed lot numbers. For plinking it does just fine as is. LC ball (currently annually available at CMPicon) comparatively has slightly tighter consistency of charges, at least in my limited experience and small sample size (of ~100 rounds tested, chosen random from the same can).

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    One similarity I've noticed is that my WW Super (Winchester Western) .303 Britishicon brass has the chamfered rim same as military .303 British brass. Several other manufacturers didn't take the extra step to chamfer the rim which has been touted as a possible cause of rimlock. I've compared the WW Super and HXP rims under a magnifying glass and they look identical causing me to wonder if Olin which has had uninterrupted ownership of the WW line of ammunition since 1935 used the same equipment and manufacturing process as HXP since they purchased Winchester ammunition equipment?

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    Looks pretty good. We'll see how it shoots.
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    L & S, I'm still waiting on mine. I paid on April 4th and haven't received an 'item shipped' notification. I hope they didn't run out.

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    Might want to check with them; I ordered on 7 Apr and it's already delivered.

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    Ordered on 3/27, Sapper, just arrived this afternoon. They're still listing it today, so I'd hope they still have some. I did get order confirmation within three days, if I recall, but took them several days more to indicate that it had been shipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    Welcome! there aren't many of us. I bet you can shoot right handed also just as well, even if it feels a bit unnatural. My left eye dominance is very slight, but habits like shooting left handed, playing pool left handed, etc. are turned into stone when we are young.
    Very true. The visual acuity difference between my left and right eyes is significant and I just naturally gravitated to shooting from my left shoulder. I can shoot from my right shoulder but only if there are optical sights mounted and are raised higher above the barrel than usual so I can my left eye in line with the sight. Can't do that with iron sights so I have to struggle with manipulating the bolt with my left hand when shooting off-hand or if prone let the muzzle rest on my shooting pad while operating the bolt with my right hand. It's clumsy but all I can do without having to reshoulder the rifle after every shot and regain the sight picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    Welcome! there aren't many of us. I bet you can shoot right handed also just as well, even if it feels a bit unnatural.
    I'm right-handed, and left-eye dominant. I didn't know it wasn't normal to close my left eye to shoot until I later became a firearms instructor in the Navy. I've been shooting handguns, rifles, and shotguns nearly everyday and the only time I even consider it a handicap is shotgunning aerial targets from the left side.

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