Mosin Nagant M44 - "Sticky Bolt" Syndrome

[gunner]

Hi Lou,
You made some efforts to understand our post, thats pretty fine.
Last wednesday a good friend bought an good looking M 39 and it shots very good with a selfloadet ammo and 200grs bullets. The grouping was a little larger than 2" at 100 metres. I have to think about.........

Regards

Gunner

[PrivatePaula]

Sorry for writing in german. It's just faster because my english isn't perfect as you all might see....
But I think the translator worked... At least you get what I meant.
I just wonder that there are no new produced bullets.
If they wouldn't be too expensive many people would buy 'em.
But it's not too bad that I'll have to clean my Mosin after each shooting because bullets for it cost about 1 € over here...

[gandog56]

Already heard about that but thanks !
Is there really ONLY corrosive ammo ?
I wonder that there's no company producing new ones...
Regards!

Winchester makes it. I'm pretty sure Prvi Partizan does.

[louthepou]

No worries guys, just thought I would help myself - and others - try to get a few details about the conversation.

I do not know how easy it is to reload ammunition in Germany. i know that here in Canada, it is almost the only way to go for many military surplus rifles. Even the venerable .303 British is too expensive for factory ammunition, more than $1 per round. That's a lot. So I learned to reload and I am quite happy. If the same thing happens I will do the same for the 7.62x54r. Bottom line, for me availability of factory ammo is not a reason to stay away from a rifle I like, but I understand that in other places on the planet the situation may be different!

Lou

[PrivatePaula]

The bullets are available but they are pretty expensive (more than 1 € per round)...
I don't know anything about reloading so I'll have to buy ammo...
Maybe I'll learn to reload later.
Regards and thank you all for your effort !!!

[gunner]

Hi PP,

Lou got right, the only reason to stay away from buying a rifle is the way of condition it has. The actual prices for the ammo from S&B is between 0.57€ and 0.62€ per round with 180grs. bullet. For reloading you have to buy cases ca. 0,62€ ,the bullet 180grs 0.27€, BR-primer ca. 0.04€ and powder ca 0.18€.
So you have to pay for the first reloadet round ( without buying the equipment ) ca. 1.11€. At the moment the fabricammo is cheaper but you can get better groups by the reloadet ammo and the oftener you use the cases the cheaper it gets.

Regards,

Gunner

To Lou : I am happy that you made the effort to translate our post.
I dont know if you have the possibility to buy ammo abroad? So if, look at hunting-sport he sells the .303 rounds with a 174grs. bullet for 515€ per 1000 so this is ca. 0,83$ per round without shipping from Luxembourg. He`s a good seller without any problems.

Regards,

Gunner

[PrivatePaula]

Thank you once again !
I'll stay with the S&L bullets... I don't wanna kill myself with wrong-reloaded bullets. Maybe someone will teach me relaoding later.
regards...

[gunner]

You`re welcome. Für Fragen stehe ich Dir gerne zur Verfügung ! ( For questions I am to you gladly at the disposal )

[Milsurp Collector]

PrivatePaula, if you find the Mosin Nagant bolt action sticky in general, take a look at this article http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...ines/index.asp

If decide to try the modifications, I recommend that you modify a replacement sear and spring, and keep your original parts unmodified.

[PrivatePaula]

thank you !
I don't have my rifle yet (it's a little more complicated to get firearms in Germany).
I just heard about the "sticky bolt" and I didn't understand what the problem was.
If I should feel that the bolt action is generally sticky I'll follow your instructions.
Regards !