If you gave me one I'd drop it in the river

[PhillipM]

I have handled one and didn't care much for it. I didn't think it looked like a machine; in fact, it looks like they tried too hard to be "artsy" with all those curves.

And FWIW, a gun IS a machine. When you come down to it, why does it need to be good looking or asthetically pleasing? I know the "blued steel and walnut" tradition, but given a choice between a gun that works and one that looks good, guess which one I'll take. Every time.

Jim

I think well designed machines are aesthetically pleasing. I don't like the carbine in question because I don't want my face that close to the action. A malfunction could make me less aesthetically pleasing than I already am!