on deer, and WAIT for a shot.

I used mine for daughter for deer hunting in Michigan, using Speer 100gr short jackets, she got first shot , I was second with .308.

A coworker used his in Wisconsin for deerdrives, as he could put a couple rounds into a running deer. (Not my idea of hunting with the Carbine)
A second co-worker used his from tree stand, took two deer (separate season )
@75yds & 25yd. Last was incoming and a decided downward shot.

Now on HD duty with butt-pouch loaaded with two 15rdrs and HP ammo.
Did smooth the feed ramp to minimize stuttering of softnosed ammo)

Recognize the LIMITATIONS and use appropriately.