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09-03-2009 01:43 AM
# ADS
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Amatikulu
....thanks too...........Your last photo illustrates the feature I was referring to: can you see there is a tiny area of machining away of the very front of the front pad, on the lower vertical part? It's actually a radius, & although not obvious is there on the final photo. Sorry if I've not explained it clearly. It is much more noticeable if looking at a dismounted pad. This is another feature you'll see in no books, but.......
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I'll offer some comments as a critic of your LB sniper. It's meant to be constructive and please do not be offended.
It is a very clean example of a 1945 LB No4 MK1* that is in sniper configuration set up for a REL scope....most likely assembled by a knowledgeable and skilled person.
I have the following concerns. The scope number stamped on the butt is in the wrong font....the "C" is not showing the hook...a very good example appears in Clive Law's book "Without Warning" on page 28. It's also off centre ...too far right. You can see the indentation of each punch of the numeral or letter which tells me it's a more recent application. On the side wall the "T" is too large....should only be there if it saw British service and then it would be about half the size. Canada did not use the "T" and "TR" stampings. It's stamped "England" on the right side of the receiver ring......which means that it was exported from England....if you remove the rear top guard you will find it's British proofed. Tells me it was in Britian at some point in time. The rear sight is marked "S" (Savage) on the silder...the face of your sight should be marked "LB" and have the Maltese Cross like on the forend. Inside of the top guard should also have the Maltese Cross. The front pad looks like the typical Israeli pad...screws should not be filed flush as they were made to a certain length. The soldering job is poor.... shows too much gap and excess material. This work would not be typical of the toolromm work at Long Branch. Fit and finish on these rifles was too a very high standard..
There were so few of these rifles produced....few remained in Canada. Post WW11 part of Canada's alottment was sent to Holland and later destroyed. There are a few good examples in here in Canada. Many assembled examples that are showing at Gunshow and internet sites due to the premium they command.
My critic.... Ron (Canada)
Last edited by rgg_7; 09-03-2009 at 08:43 PM.
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No offense taken, your concerns are noted.
Take a look at this http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/cana...gbranch90l8161
The rifle shown is almost exactly marked the same way as the one I've shown here. Do you have any concerns with that? It has the over sized "T" that you refer to and the Savage marked rear sight. The scope number "C" is the same font as mine and the numerals have the same circular stamp around them. My number is slightly more right of this one. The "England" export is in the same place.
My rifle came with a No.32 Mark 3 scope in an English made chest.
Last edited by Amatikulu; 09-03-2009 at 09:21 PM.
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I have only seen Savage marked sights on these late 90L snipers. They usually have the maltese cross on the top left rear face. It is also my belief that most if not all the 90L series of guns were destined for England to fulfill wartime contracts.
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Amatikula. Yes I've got concerns on the 1945's that are surfacing. Could you tell me where you purchased your rifle and when. You can email with the info rgg_7@hotmail.com.
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rgg 7: You've got some studying to do. That rifle is as right as rain. I think I'd refrain from your critiques of other people's rifles until you learn more about them. Just my two cents. How many have you owned over the years if you don't mind me asking?
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Originally Posted by
rgg_7
I'll offer some comments as a critic of your LB sniper. It's meant to be constructive and please do not be offended.
It is a very clean example of a 1945 LB No4 MK1* that is in sniper configuration set up for a REL scope....most likely assembled by a knowledgeable and skilled person.
I have the following concerns. The scope number stamped on the butt is in the wrong font....the "C" is not showing the hook...a very good example appears in Clive Law's book "Without Warning" on page 28. It's also off centre ...too far right. You can see the indentation of each punch of the numeral or letter which tells me it's a more recent application. On the side wall the "T" is too large....should only be there if it saw British service and then it would be about half the size.
Canada did not use the "T" and "TR" stampings. It's stamped "
England" on the right side of the receiver ring......which means that it was exported from England....if you remove the rear top guard you will find it's British proofed. Tells me it was in Britian at some point in time. The rear sight is marked "S" (Savage) on the silder...the face of your sight should be marked "LB" and have the Maltese Cross like on the forend. Inside of the top guard should also have the Maltese Cross. The front pad looks like the typical Israeli pad...screws should not be filed flush as they were made to a certain length. The soldering job is poor.... shows too much gap and excess material. This work would not be typical of the toolromm work at Long Branch. Fit and finish on these rifles was too a very high standard..
There were so few of these rifles produced....few remained in Canada. Post WW11 part of Canada's alottment was sent to Holland and later destroyed. There are a few good examples in here in Canada. Many assembled examples that are showing at Gunshow and internet sites due to the premium they command.
My critic.... Ron (Canada)
Ron, I'm sorry, but about the only true things that you have said is that "Canada did not use the TR marking", and "It's stamped "England" on the right side of the receiver ring......which means that it was exported from England" .
Pretty much everything else that you have pointed out is actually a typical quirk of the LB sniper...
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Looking at mine, (its a 68L thing) it has all of the "bad" features except the Savage rear sight and the big "T". The solder job is rather hideous! Two of the front srews were filed down, but the forward one was left alone. Its about 3/4 of a thread too long. Forend has no S/N but does have the cross. The "C" prefix stamped on the wrist is smaller than the rest of the numbers. Long Branch did do a much neater job of removing the battle peep.
Oh, yeah, no mid swivel on mine. I love that feature ,BTW, but its also grand that it wasn't updated.
My picture support group isn't around, so no pics today!Sorry.
Mr. Payne, I just noticed the feature on the front pad to which you refer, its quite distinctive (and large!) whilst being hard to see because its mostly hidden by the receiver ring. Most interesting! (in a machinist/engineer geek kind of way)
Scope C-270, are you out there? Any MK would be fine!
Last edited by jmoore; 09-04-2009 at 05:39 PM.
Reason: Keep thinking of stuff!
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... love to see pics when you have them partner ... 
