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    If I remember correctly, I have seen a few of these Israeli 'No32's'. The mechanicals are a bit different but the optics are taken straight from the No42 and 53 scopes, redundant from use as the BESA co-axial machine gun from the Mk7 Churchill gun tanks.

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    I do stand corrected on the scope. The second round of pictures were a bit better. The scope is an Israeli made one and not one of the converted Britishicon No.32's. The scope you have is very interesting internally and while it does resemble the 32 externally had NO resemblance to the British 32 in the mechanisms. Lenses are different, as are the turret adjustments and reticule diaphragm. As I said previously, the scope was made to allow the use of none precision instrumentation and semi skilled workers. I am researching the company that made them right now and contrary to popular believe it was not Nimrod.
    Stay tuned for more developments on this scope. A number were sold in the USAicon some years ago by a large surplus arms and parts dealer. Most were in the tin and in fair condition to as new.

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    The Israelis seem to have fitted up their own No4(T)s as well. The 'one up, two down' screw pattern on the front pad being the most obvious indicator I believe. There are some on ePay at the moment IIRC.

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    Yes, I bought one of the surplus scopes from the US when they were on offer about 15 years ago as I had an Israeli set-up rifle to complete. It all went together quite nicely & went off to a late lamented collector buddy in New Zealandicon.
    At the time I saw a few Israeli set up barrelled actions from which I chose mine......They were all from the 'tunnel' at Parker-Hale. IIRC the rear pads are also squared off at the bottom so that they can be used on a radiused (eg BSA Shirley) or angled (later Maltby/most Long Branch) receiver side wall. I think I still have a rear pad somewhere which I used for many years as part of a jig to spin No32 brackets on my lathe!

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    Oy, some jig! I try to bore stuff like that on the milling machine, just to avoid the imbalance issues of swinging off-center tooling round at high rpm. But- hey, if it works, it works!

    BTW and OT- Around here, one of the favourite jobs is the machining of the M1D scope ring from 7/8" to 1". Seems each is a bit different in the hinge pin and clamping screws locations, so simply indexing on the existing bore doesn't quite work out. If you're not careful its easy to intrude on those areas which means a failed job! A bit of fiddling will usually get things on track. Fortunately, no requirement for positioning relative to the bore exists except that its got to be parallel.
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    You're quite right.........but don't forget I'm only a doc not an engineer! I spin the brackets about the rear thumb screw boss to true it up, as whilst most machining operations are done for me, I have to do some finishing off on each bracket before it is ready to blast, phosphate & suncorite. The lathe was a prett hefty old Germanicon piece, so it stood up to the battering pretty well!

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