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    Quote Originally Posted by snapperm1c View Post
    I don't see anybody "sharing" their expertise. Just saying things like "Trust me" or "Without going into detail...."...
    Again, one more time, people will share their expertise in emails and private messages, but not always in an open forum.

    If you haven't "seen" it, perhaps it is because you haven't asked through an email or private message for the details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milsurp Collector View Post
    Again, one more time, people will share their expertise in emails and private messages, but not always in an open forum.

    If you haven't "seen" it, perhaps it is because you haven't asked through an email or private message for the details.
    Quite the contrary. But enough of this...

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    Hi all,
    New here, just picked up a new to me Winchester Carbine and has lead me here, what I know is it is Bavarian/Austrian imported by Intrac(small, disdrete looks laser engraved import mark) and in amazing condition. But now what I dont, I am trying to find out if the parts are original to a ser, # 12255xx Winchester or if it was rebuilt.

    So is there a reference guide that shows what manufactures used what markings to say they produced the parts?, and what manufactures shared parts; barrels, trigger groups, stock's etc?

    Anyway if someone can point me to a book or website/thread that has any info would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cslong1979 View Post
    Hi all,
    New here, just picked up a new to me Winchester Carbine and has lead me here, what I know is it is Bavarian/Austrian imported by Intrac(small, disdrete looks laser engraved import mark) and in amazing condition. But now what I dont, I am trying to find out if the parts are original to a ser, # 12255xx Winchester or if it was rebuilt.

    So is there a reference guide that shows what manufactures used what markings to say they produced the parts?, and what manufactures shared parts; barrels, trigger groups, stock's etc?

    Anyway if someone can point me to a book or website/thread that has any info would be appreciated.
    Almost certainly it has been rebuilt. Here's what it originally had:

    Blued flat bolt marked W on the right lug. Extractor and firing pin blued and marked W.
    Type III operating slide marked W.
    Trigger housing, magazine catch, hammer, trigger, sear marked W. Pushbutton safety marked SW or no marking.
    Unmarked Type 1 barrel band (narrow, no bayonet lug).
    Flip rear sight.
    Undated barrel with a P on W proof mark.
    High wood stock with W in the sling well, WRA over GHD and Ordnance crossed cannons on the right. Handguard marked W or no marking.

    Now, with that being said, whatever it has now is correct for a Bavarian/Austrian carbine. When they rebuilt those carbines they often made distinctive changes to the finish and added distinctive markings. Learn more at The Carbines

    If you start switching out parts and using non-Bavarian/Austrian sourced parts to make it "correct", you will actually be making it less correct as a Bavarian/Austrian carbine. It would be like taking a Finnishicon Mosin Nagant and undoing all the changes/improvements the Finns did to convert it back to a run-of-the-mill Sovieticon Mosin Nagant. You have something rarer than a typical USGI carbine, my advice is leave it alone and enjoy its special distinctiveness!

    Here's my Bavarian, I wouldn't dream of "correcting" it


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    Milsurp Collector,
    Is that a highwood stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF4M1sicon View Post
    Milsurp Collector,
    Is that a highwood stock?
    Nope. And, the carbine is an Inland and the stock is IBM


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