trigger problem

[Bayou]

I obtained my first M1G about six months ago and so far have only had it to the range twice. Before the first trip I replaced the op, clip latch and trigger hammer springs and lubed the rifle. With respect to trigger performance I remember nothing from that first trip about trigger problems. The clips however were being spit out with a couple rounds left. It was suggested on this forum that replacing the clip ejector spring would probably cure that. So I replaced that spring and on the next trip the problem with early clip ejection was no more. BUT now the trigger pull is way too high. I can't even guess what the pull weight is but if it were any higher I probably would not possess enough strength in my finger to fire a round. I removed the trigger group and reinstalled it but no change. Is it even possible to install the trigger group incorrectly and still have the gun be able to fire? Anyway anyone got any ideas what could be going on here - how can the trigger pull go from normal to off the scale by simply removing and replacing the trigger group during a clip ejector spring replacement?

Thanks!

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[AKA Hugh Uno]

take the trigger group out and THEN pull the trigger. Is it still HIGH OUTSIDE the rifle? If so, You may have done something wrong when you changed out the trigger spring (assuming you took the trigger assembly apart and replaced this??). The trigger USUALLY won't go back together "wrong" but you never know. The trigger may be resting on the wrong part of the housing or something?

if the trigger is "normal" (i.e. two stages and total combined weight around 6.5 pounds *+/- one lb.), something else is causing interference/stress to the trigger unit when locked in.

it's hard to help with diagnosing a problem if the requestor doesn't give much information?

[Bayou]

Thanks I'll try that. But if I had done something wrong when installing the new hammer spring, which does of course require taking apart and reassembling the trigger assembly, then wouldn't I have experienced the problem during my first range trip?

[AKA Hugh Uno]

unless something happened AFTER that range trip (either in the trigger unit or the rifle itself).

[Punch The Clown]

Bayou, to replace the clip ejector spring you had to completely dis-assemble the trigger group. Make sure the cut-out side of the hammer spring housing is against the safety and not the other way around. Stu

[Bayou]

Bayou, to replace the clip ejector spring you had to completely dis-assemble the trigger group. Make sure the cut-out side of the hammer spring housing is against the safety and not the other way around. Stu

Sorry Stu, my mistake I got the spring names mixed up. When I put in the new hammer spring I put in a new clip ejector spring. I then had the problem with early clip ejection during my first range trip. Then I replaced the clip latch spring and on my second trip this cured the early ejection problem.

I took the trigger group out as Hugh suggested and something is wrong. Its very hard to get the hammer to release. Can anything be learned from a few pics?

[dryheat]

I had a trigger group a while back that wouldn't work with a particular trigger. I pulled it aside and taggged it "bad trigger", put another in and everything was fine. The other day I was building a t. grooup and needed a trigger. I grabbed the "bad" trigger, slapped it in and it worked perfectly. The moral? Try swapping a few parts.

[Bayou]

OK I figured out the problem, the trigger pivot pin was migrating out of its hole. When I gently pushed it back in with a drift and small hammer the trigger worked normally again. Now the question becomes how do I stop the pin from coming out? Don't want to spread it with a punch as that would make taking the trigger group apart difficult. I guess I'll just check it every so often at the range and push it back in when necessary.

[Bayou]

I had a trigger group a while back that wouldn't work with a particular trigger. I pulled it aside and taggged it "bad trigger", put another in and everything was fine. The other day I was building a t. grooup and needed a trigger. I grabbed the "bad" trigger, slapped it in and it worked perfectly. The moral? Try swapping a few parts.

Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I have no parts to swap out with.

[Dave Waits]

I'm seeing waayyy too much lube on that triggergroup. Get all that grease off of it, it's on your sear engagement area, BAD JU-JU!! Oh, and buy a new trigger pin and a hammer pin.