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    No.4 mk1 Beech Woodwork needs staining to match, any idea's?

    I have a full set of new wood for a No.4 mk 1 in slightly difference shades of beech.
    I want to keep it blonde, BUT its all slightly different shades of yellow/blonde/white.
    Has anyone got a secret dye to bring it all to a consistant (staying blonde)colour?? The butt is the darkest part with the forestock being the lightest. I dont want to just stain it walnut or very dark. If its BLOicon'ed as is it will look a map of europe (different colours)

    Has any one got a walnut forestock for a No.4 MK 1? I need one to complete another rifle !

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    These two are all I use, mix, blend and apply very thinly until you have a wood color match.
    "Color" NOTE: My steering wheel is on the left hand side of the car.



    Someone mentioned that they used medicinal “iodine” to reproduce the “Yellow Jaundiced” factory look of newly dipped beech stock.

    But then someone else said that “Quinine” would remove jaundiced look of the stain if you put too much on.

    They both may have drinking Gin and been in the noon day sun too long...............

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    Try Chestnut Ridge military stock stain. It's alcohol based and works great.

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    Go to your local hardware shop or B&Q.
    I've used a variety of colours from the 'Blackfriar' range of wood dyes.

    They go from almost white thru' to very dark walnut.

    I actually used "Redwood" to stain a 'new' No1 front handguard, very pale and 'streaky' to start with but keep putting on coats and it came out identical to the 100 year old, greasy, stained Walnut that made up the rest of the furniture.

    £3.22 for 125ml at my village hardware.

    Still got 9/10ths of the tin left.

    * Get a colour much lighter than you think - you can build up the colour. If you start too dark you' snookered.

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    Mr. Laidlericon posted the “recipe” for what was used to dye and preserve beech wood stocks in the Britishicon military at the old forum.

    We need to find out when the British celebrate American Thanksgiving and find out what pub Peter is in and get him to repost the chemicals used to dye the wood.

    Copper sulfate pentahydrate keeps ringing bell………..

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    We Britishicon do not celebrate Thanksgiving, unless it is to give thanks that those awful puritans buggered off to America

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinecracker View Post
    We British do not celebrate Thanksgiving, unless it is to give thanks that those awful puritans buggered off to America

    Don’t worry I’m not a “flat hatter” and you British celebrate several days of “Harvest Festival”, some of you even paint your faces blue and dance around Stonehenge.

    Some British might be nervous about attending an American Thanksgiving celebration out of fear that it is a day when we express our hatred for you and your tea-taxing, King-George-obeying ways. Rest assured we would never, ever do that on Thanksgiving. That's what the 4th of July is for.

    Thanksgiving was started by the Pilgrims, a group of English citizens who, tired of the cold British winters, packed up and moved to Massachusetts. (Sadly, these British Pilgrims were not very bright.) They gave this strange land place names that would remind them of the home they had left behind, names like "New Englandicon," or "New Bedford".

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinecracker View Post
    We British do not celebrate Thanksgiving, unless it is to give thanks that those awful puritans buggered off to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Horton View Post
    Don’t worry I’m not a “flat hatter” and you British celebrate several days of “Harvest Festival”, some of you even paint your faces blue and dance around Stonehenge.


    Thanksgiving was started by the Pilgrims, a group of English citizens who, tired of the cold British winters, packed up and moved to Massachusetts. (Sadly, these British Pilgrims were not very bright.) They gave this strange land place names that would remind them of the home they had left behind, names like "New Englandicon," or "New Bedford".
    Stupidly enough, I'm named after one of those Pilgrims, an ancestor on my mother's side.

    As far as staining goes, go easy and let each coat dry before added more colour. (Usually the BLOicon will remove a wee bit.)

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    Some good folks will take issue with this method but it has worked for me more times than I can count. When I find I have multiple stock parts all of the same type wood but the wood color does not match I strip the color from all the wood parts and then color them to all match. To strip color from the cells of the wood on the surface I use Sodium Hydroxide. About a 30 minute soak. Wash with lots of hot water and allow to dry for a week. Then I color or oil as required depending on if one wants a blonde or dark finish.

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    Thanks guys !!
    I tried one stain, Beechwood cassidy, thinned it down to almost water and one coat was far too much ! Just want to get all the peices to match the darkest original wood.
    Harder than it sounds! My No.5 is almost orange and thats not what i want . . Think Enforcer . . . I have been told before Iodine is good way to go. Where do i get that from, hospital ??

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