Questions on a Standard Products

[Bill Hollinger]

Bill, I have 2205955 seems real close to yours, but I have 8/43 UEF barrel. But it is exactly same color as yours.

Wow, 36 numbers off from mine! That is the closest I've heard of. Thanks

[Mikey51]

I've got two. This one and a later one. Might be able to help with questions. What do you think of the Cartouch Bill ? Mike

[Bill Hollinger]

The cartouche looks good but I would like to see it in relationship and placement to the rest of the stock. The serial numbers are not real crisp in their strikes. Are there signs of a repark?

[dnikkor]

I'm pretty sure that the SP I am looking at has been mostly corrected, judging from the later trigger housing and the few none SP parts on a re-arsenaled carbine. Considering it has a nice SH-B stock with cartouche, Type 2 band & flip sight, I think that this is still a pretty good buy at $750...depending upon the barrel wear which I will find out about soon.

Anybody beg to differ?

And thanks for all the help.

[STU1]

dnikkor, the trigger housing would be correct for the serial # range.

[Bruce McAskill]

The brazed trigger housings were in use by August 1943. It's the only one IBM ever used. Standard Products started using the brazed housings on January 15,1944.

[dnikkor]

The brazed trigger housings were in use by August 1943. It's the only one IBM ever used. Standard Products started using the brazed housings on January 15,1944.

That is how I read War Baby too. I haven't been able to narrow down the manufacturing date, though I am sure it was the fall of '43. Well before the brazed trigger housing was used. My SP I bought last winter was manufactured only a little over 3000 units earlier and the consensus of opinion put it about Sept. '43.

I'm thinking real hard on adding this carbine to my collection even though it probably was one that has been mostly corrected. I really shouldn't financially, but I don't know how I could go wrong with this one.

[STU1]

here is 20961XX with it's stamped BE-B trigger housing and all of it's correct parts except for the rear sight the rifle is a bit later than yours but not by much. WB has wrong info, the trigger housing was requested by SP earlier than Jan 44 and obviously used them well before Jan 44

[dnikkor]

here is 20961XX with it's stamped BE-B trigger housing and all of it's correct parts except for the rear sight the rifle is a bit later than yours but not by much. WB has wrong info, the trigger housing was requested by SP earlier than Jan 44 and obviously used them well before Jan 44

The carbine I'm looking at has a ST marked braised trigger housing. I hope you are right. Is that is a type 2 front band on yours? Thanks again and thanks for showing your very nice SP.

[Bruce McAskill]

Stu when was your carbine made? I ask as Standard Products didn't get the BE-B trigger housings till after 01-25-44 when requested from IBM. Riesch lists the ST marked housings as being used first.