I'll try to confine it to one thread in the future! This thread was actually about the article I found on M1Carbineinc.com about the Auto Ordnance and his observations supported mine. I guess it ended up being a double posting. Apologies. It should have been attached to the flipper and the preamble could have been avoided. Sitting home on vicodin for my shoulder is bad for the concentration.... (or maybe old-timers setting in)