No.4 mk1 Beech Woodwork needs staining to match, any idea's?

[neal455]

I have a full set of new wood for a No.4 mk 1 in slightly difference shades of beech.
I want to keep it blonde, BUT its all slightly different shades of yellow/blonde/white.
Has anyone got a secret dye to bring it all to a consistant (staying blonde)colour?? The butt is the darkest part with the forestock being the lightest. I dont want to just stain it walnut or very dark. If its BLO'ed as is it will look a map of europe (different colours)

Has any one got a walnut forestock for a No.4 MK 1? I need one to complete another rifle !

Thanks peeps !

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[Edward Horton]

These two are all I use, mix, blend and apply very thinly until you have a wood color match.
"Color" NOTE: My steering wheel is on the left hand side of the car.



Someone mentioned that they used medicinal “iodine” to reproduce the “Yellow Jaundiced” factory look of newly dipped beech stock.

But then someone else said that “Quinine” would remove jaundiced look of the stain if you put too much on.

They both may have drinking Gin and been in the noon day sun too long...............

[Brian Dick]

Try Chestnut Ridge military stock stain. It's alcohol based and works great.

[Alan de Enfield]

Go to your local hardware shop or B&Q.
I've used a variety of colours from the 'Blackfriar' range of wood dyes.

They go from almost white thru' to very dark walnut.

I actually used "Redwood" to stain a 'new' No1 front handguard, very pale and 'streaky' to start with but keep putting on coats and it came out identical to the 100 year old, greasy, stained Walnut that made up the rest of the furniture.

£3.22 for 125ml at my village hardware.

Still got 9/10ths of the tin left.

* Get a colour much lighter than you think - you can build up the colour. If you start too dark you' snookered.

[Edward Horton]

Mr. Laidler posted the “recipe” for what was used to dye and preserve beech wood stocks in the British military at the old forum.

We need to find out when the British celebrate American Thanksgiving and find out what pub Peter is in and get him to repost the chemicals used to dye the wood.

Copper sulfate pentahydrate keeps ringing bell………..

[spinecracker]

We British do not celebrate Thanksgiving, unless it is to give thanks that those awful puritans buggered off to America

[neal455]

Thanks guys !!
I tried one stain, Beechwood cassidy, thinned it down to almost water and one coat was far too much ! Just want to get all the peices to match the darkest original wood.
Harder than it sounds! My No.5 is almost orange and thats not what i want . . Think Enforcer . . . I have been told before Iodine is good way to go. Where do i get that from, hospital ??

[Edward Horton]

Neal455

Get a small white bowl and put in a half inch of water or alcohol and drip the dye into to bowl one “drip” at a time and just “tint” the water or alcohol. You want to be able to see the bottom of the bowl very clearly, think at least half or a quarter of the tint of yellow-orange shooting glasses.

It is better to put 10 light coats on and get it right than one coat and go “Oh sh*t”.
Doing it this way you can change the “tint” to more red or more yellow after 4 or 5 coats to get the color (colour) correct.

Remember to stay light because the linseed oil will darken the wood also.

http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/s...-wood-dyes.asp

Wood Dye

Google is a wonderful tool and coffee and tea will dye wood, have you tried the colour Earl Gray

[Edward Horton]

We British do not celebrate Thanksgiving, unless it is to give thanks that those awful puritans buggered off to America

Don’t worry I’m not a “flat hatter” and you British celebrate several days of “Harvest Festival”, some of you even paint your faces blue and dance around Stonehenge.

Some British might be nervous about attending an American Thanksgiving celebration out of fear that it is a day when we express our hatred for you and your tea-taxing, King-George-obeying ways. Rest assured we would never, ever do that on Thanksgiving. That's what the 4th of July is for.

Thanksgiving was started by the Pilgrims, a group of English citizens who, tired of the cold British winters, packed up and moved to Massachusetts. (Sadly, these British Pilgrims were not very bright.) They gave this strange land place names that would remind them of the home they had left behind, names like "New England," or "New Bedford".

[neal455]

Edward your a star !

Thanks for that, i followed the link and what a choice !
Tea/Coffee is really quite good aswell i once did all the woodwork in house with a colour called Maxwell House "Really rich Roast" the customer loved it, but years laters always wondered way his house smelt like Star Bucks ! !
I will try a very light colour, I went down the walnut colour thinned route and like you say it went horribly wrong, even thinned it was still too much. (It was on a M1 Carbine so not all was lost) So off to B & Q, or as you guys know it "Home Depot" !

Anyone found me a walnut forestock yet? ? ?