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    My First K98 Mauser

    Gentlemen,

    Good morning. I have purchased a K98icon Mauser rifle and have a question that I have not found a satisfactory answer to on several forums.

    My rifle is a dou. 44 seno 8619 aa the serial number appears on the BARREL ONLY, Not the receiver. The left side of the bolt channel is marked with what appears to be a smaller font "Mod 98". The top of the bolt handle is marked "8619 aa" as is the top the rear part of the bolt, the safety lever and the back of the cocking piece. Also, just a "19" on the underside of the rear sight assembly I saw after removing the stock. From the advice given on other forums for what to watch for, I chose this rifle because of the matching bolt. The underside of the rear sight leaf, the stamped/welded upper sling attachment are also marked with the serno.

    To the left of the barrel serno is an Eagle/Swastika mark. It is the only on on the rifle. There are only two WAa across the back of the barrel...."480" and the same WAa above the "dou." stamp on top of the receiver. The inside of the barrel is quite bright with distinct lands/grooves. Muzzle bullet test quite good.

    Do not see any markings on the laminated stock that came with the rifle, save for a serial number mark inside the barrel channel, which does not match the rifle. Also, under the handguard is a serial number that matches neither the stock nor the rifle.

    Pictures are below. My question is: Why is there no serial number on the receiver? I've read that several factories omitted recvr serno in late war. Is there documentation as to this in a reference book, etc?

    Not that I am going to remove the barrel, but I can see this possibly being a problem in that regard as I have read one lengthy post on another forum about a K98 receiver without a serial number.

    Apologies for the lengthy post and description. I appreciate all replies and comments.

    Thanks,

    Jason
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    This is possibly(?) a post-war Mauser. I see no Germanicon serial numbers on the left side of the receiver and no German proofs on the right side of the receiver. There is a "Circle Z" stamp on the lower sight side. Do you see it? There are some bright guys on this site and hopefully they will jump in. But I do guess this is a late 1945/46 Mauser, built with left-over parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calif-Steve View Post
    This is possibly(?) a post-war Mauser. I see no Germanicon serial numbers on the left side of the receiver and no German proofs on the right side of the receiver. There is a "Circle Z" stamp on the lower sight side. Do you see it? There are some bright guys on this site and hopefully they will jump in. But I do guess this is a late 1945/46 Mauser, built with left-over parts.
    Steve:

    As an aside, the CZ marking was used before, during and after the war on some parts made in Czechicon factories. dou and dot coded rifles were built in Czechoslovakian factories that, before annexation to the Reich, were operated by BRNO. IIn the case of dou, we're talking about the Brunn Bystrica plant. t's not out of whack to see a cz proof on either make of rifle and would not, by itself, indicate post-war production or refurbishment IMHO.
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    Jason, I researched the same issue awhile back. I have a DOT 44 K98icon without a receiver serial. Go to the BATF website and search on the no serial number question. Basically it will tell you that it is not a problem if the gun was made before I believe 1968. There are many (legal) firearms out there without serial numbers, lots of them are latewar K98's and cheap .22's. To remove or alter the serial is another story however and very illegal. Salt Flat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salt Flat View Post
    Jason, I researched the same issue awhile back. I have a DOT 44 K98icon without a receiver serial.
    Correction: For what it's worth --I have a no serial number BNZ 4, not a DOT 44. Salt Flat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason60chev View Post
    There are only two WAa across the back of the barrel...."480" and the same WAa above the "dou." stamp on top of the receiver.
    I have looked into the WAa marks on my rifle......they are not "480".....but "A80".......and are correct for a dou. 44 rifle.

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    Also........I just took the bolt apart and found that the firing pin has the same serial number as the rest of the earlier mentioned parts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason60chev View Post
    My question is: Why is there no serial number on the receiver?
    I have just found the answer to my question.......http://www.ycgg.org/pdfpages/ww2/dou.pdf .....................Gives good info on dou rifles for 1942, 1943, 1944 and 1945.

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    Have not run across such a beastie before. Thanks for the followup!

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    It's common on many 1944 and 1945 K98icon's to have either only the barrel or only the receiver serialized. Some factories, Like Mauser Oberndorf, did both in the later parts of the war. To me, it looks fine from the few pics you posted.
    Союз нерушимый республик свободных Сплотила навеки Великая Русь. Да здравствует созданный волей народов Единый, могучий Советский Союз!

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