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    No4 Mk1 (T) with a "C" stamp on base of barrel

    I am very curious if this "C" stamp at the base of the barrel could mean that this rifle was once in the care and ownership of the Dominon of Canadaicon?

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    If it was It would be a /l\ in a C stamp

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    Page 126 Skennertonicon "The Broad Arrow" the stamping of C = Calgary ordnance depot Canadaicon

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Page 126 Skennertonicon "The Broad Arrow" the stamping of C = Calgary ordnance depot Canadaicon
    That is interesting because the fore-end was replaced with a new one that has the Canadian markings on it so I am thinking that this rifle was transferred from Britishicon to Canadian Service and then sold to the public.


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    Quote Originally Posted by corco View Post
    I am very curious if this "C" stamp at the base of the barrel could mean that this rifle was once in the care and ownership of the Dominon of Canadaicon?

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...apossibl-1.jpg
    not in this case
    BSN from the Republic of Alberta

    http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/

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    Interesting that it looks like it has the chisel mark at the bottom of the re-enforce seen on a few Ts.

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    Had a discussion with Peter L on that one about index marks he gave a good reply to my question.

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    Well something interesting has come up... I submitted this rifle to the panel and the panel has a member that was the previous owner to this rifle. He pointed out that there is an Enfield examiners stamp on the fore-end. So I thought I would add it to this post.

    So with that info how could a Canadianicon made fore-end be put on a BSA made (T) and then get the Enfield examiners mark but not have the rifles serial number stamped into it? (scratching head)

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    The obvious point is that the C you mention aint either the Canadian arrow within a C OR Calgary Ord Depot. To be honest, I have never heard of a Calgary Ord Depot stamp and it certainly didn't feature in our book of markings. On that basis, would the T above the C indicate Totonto - or Taupiri?

    Simple answer. in my humble opinion. There usually is a simple answer to things. Bog standard UKicon made No4, converted to T. Worked hard and had a new replacement fore-end fitted. Fore-end came from Canadaicon during the war and was inspected again by an Enfield examiner before being sent to Ordnance Depot.

    We had zillions of Canadian Mk2 Bren butts like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    The obvious point is that the C you mention aint either the Canadian arrow within a C OR Calgary Ord Depot. To be honest, I have never heard of a Calgary Ord Depot stamp and it certainly didn't feature in our book of markings. On that basis, would the T above the C indicate Totonto - or Taupiri?

    Simple answer. in my humble opinion. There usually is a simple answer to things. Bog standard UK made No4, converted to T. Worked hard and had a new replacement fore-end fitted. Fore-end came from Canadaicon during the war and was inspected again by an Enfield examiner before being sent to Ordnance Depot.

    We had zillions of Canadian Mk2 Bren butts like that

    Found this in a book called "Out of Nowhere"

    "Despite the efforts made to supply them with their own rifle during the fighting in 1944 and 1945 most Canadian snipers used the Enfield made No. 4 (T), as only 1,141 Long Branch sniping rifles were constructed in time, with a further 350 still awaiting assembly by end of hostilities."

    -"Out Of Nowhere" Authored by Martin Pegler. Page 235.
    ISBN 1 84176 854 5

    So the stock was a Canadian field replacement and returned to Englandicon after the war in which it got the Enfield examiner stamp.

    The "C" is probably a "zero". After looking at many Picts of other T rifles they all have a single digit number at that location.

    I believe with the history of the English made rifle being used in Canadian service makes this hypothesized conclusion not beyond reasonable doubt.

    Additionally to help prove this hypothesis if there is anyone out there that has a Candadian made forend with an Enfield examiners mark on it please post your info and photo here. I believe that such likelihood would be improbable... But never say never. Such info would prove my hypothesis true or false.

    Thanks!
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