Braising on a M1A1 stock?

[Freestateguy]

So I own several what I believe to be 100% correct Inland 1st contract M1A1`s
I've gone down the rabbit hole and everything checks out

My most recent purchase from the same collector is an early 2nd contract
In the 5.2 mil range
I'm putting a data sheet together and have noticed a small braised repair on the top
Stock wire were it is welded next to the pistol grip
I know stocks should be welded and parked
The repair is less than a half inch on top of the stock wire
It looks like the bottom part of the wire has a weld
The bottom stock wire is welded and parked and looks straight
I also know braising cant be parked

So my question: did the military ever use braising to make this type of repair?
Perhaps at the field armorer level?
Maybe wo access to a welder?

I'm really hoping it can still be a straight/correct stock or I really overpaid
Everything else on the gun is Inland marked /correct as it should be

Thanks for any help

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[Daan Kemp]

Just checking - you mean brazed as in welding not braised as in cooking?

[Freestateguy]

Yes, brazed as in not welded
Sorry

[jimb16]

Yeah! I thought it might be a little chewy....

[painter777]

FreeStateGuy,

1st Welcome to Milsurps

I don't remember ever seeing or hearing of a Brazed repair. Maybe it was possibly done at FN in Belgium or Japan during the out of country inspect / rebuilds.
Or like your theory about it being done in the field with no access to a welder.
Don't think we'll ever know if it was done while in service or by Bubba in his garage.

Is the repair strong? Look good? Just wondering if you could touch it up with a Park type paint.
I don't know if the Brazing could be ground or melted away and having someone Tig or Mig Weld to repair, then repark where needed.

*** If you could add some pictures we may get other opinions,

I did see a M1A1 stock on auction that I asked if it was real. The seller described it as having JB Weld repairs.
Some of the members here recommended how the repairs should have been done.
It's pictured in the link below-

Link: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=63220

I hope it works out for you,

[painter777]

@ Freestateguy,

If it's the top Wire Extension and IF you want to replace it, the Ebay seller nenel3 (real name Andre') over in France has them for sale @ $127.00 with Free Shipping.
He also has the lower wire extensions for the same price. Many of us have purchased from him. Especially me and I've always been happy with the parts and shipping time.

Upper Wire Extension: M1 CARBINE, M1 PARATROOPER, upper Wire extension arms, US GI, WWII | eBay
Lower Wire Extension: M1 CARBINE, M1 PARATROOPER, lower Wire extension arm, US GI, WWII | eBay

Sometimes all of his M1 and M1A1 parts are not listed in his Ebay store. So it's worth taking the time to go thru his Ebay Items list under his seller name nenel3.
There are times you'll see multiple listings for the same part at different prices.

Seller nenel3: Items for sale by nenel3 | eBay

HTH,

[Freestateguy]

Painter777,
Thanks for being helpful. It's appreciated. I have attached here 3 pics of the repair. It seems strong and well done - but I don't braze. Thanks also for the Ebay contact. I looked and he has lots of stuff. I would prefer to treat this repair as something possibly USGI if at all possible. Correct is good but original is better. If and when I sell this carbine I need to be forthright. I know that WW2 martial arms production was a crazy fast paced thing and all kinds of things did and did not happen and the documented data for Carbines has not captured everything.

Thanks again

[eb in oregon]

May I state that firearms field repair units would generally not have access to an electric welding machine, they would have a gas welding unit if anything. So to return the rifle to service as quickly as possible brazing would be the ticket. It wouldn't take long. And as long as it works as desired I wouldn't worry too much as you are completely correct: it would be impossible to determine if the stock were repaired in theatre or at a later date or even when.

[painter777]

did the military ever use braising to make this type of repair?

Thought you might be interested in this one,

This early barrel band has been repaired on the inside with a brazed in patch.

According to War Baby 362 carbines were delivered in June 1942. In July 1942 2,642 were delivered.... Those 2 shipments totaling 3,004 Carbines.
So there's a possibility this carbine Inland SN# 2730, barrel dated 6-42 was in one of the shipments sent to the 1st Infantry 'The Big Red One' in the North Africa Operation.
A document lists the quantity of 1st Infantry Division’s small arms that were repaired by their organic 1st Ordnance Light Maintenance Company following combat in Tunisia during the period January 18 to March 21, 1943.

More in the link below concerning the first shipments of the new M1 Carbines.
Anyone with Very Early Inlands should read and are asked to contribute their serial numbers and barrel dates to help further research to the thread below:
1st Infantry Divisins 1st Carbines?! - The Carbine Collector's Club


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[Freestateguy]

Thanks for the feedback Eric
Much appreciated

Since my post I've had an experienced collector friend of mine look at it and we both agree the brazing repair is very well done, and does not look like a bubba repair
It's back in my safe wo darkening- the data sheet states minor repair on stock top wire
I'm good with that