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07-23-2021 11:16 AM
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She looks great. Well done..........another classic rifle dragged back from the precipice & restored to her former glory!
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Tidy job - put a proper butt - plate on her (get rid of that 'orrible zamak and replace it with brass) and she'll be another step closer.
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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Entirely your choice, but every BSA 1944 4T that I can remember coming across in unadulterated condition actually had a mazak butt plate on it, so it might be worth keeping & may well be the 'factory original' component.
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I have read about lack of the gap in the wrist socket leading to chips, but in shooting thousands of rounds through my No 1 Mk III* and No 4 Mk II that don't have the gap I have yet to see it happening.
Are there pictures of what it looks like? I'm not doubting what PL says, I would just like to see what it looks like, especially with detail of what activities caused the chips.
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Entirely your choice, but every BSA 1944 4T that I can remember coming across in unadulterated condition actually had a
mazak butt plate on it, so it might be worth keeping & may well be the 'factory original' component.
Interesting, you have seen way more 4T's than I but I have not seen one with a Mazak butt plate - maybe they have all been 'messed with'.
Did H&H remove the BSA butt plate and replace it with a Mazak one, or did BSA change all of the T-rifles with one before despatch to H&H.
Where did H&H or BSA get the Mazak ones from ?
When PL viewed mine he did 'sign it off' as all original and didn't make any suggestion that it had the incorrect butt-plate - have I been conned ?
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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Yes, but how original is 'original'? Peter might not even have considered the butt plate worth mentioning.
I have a small quantity of original 4T butts in a drawer in the garage. I think some still bear their original (?) butt plates. I'll have a look at the makers for you Alan, if you would like. I had always simply assumed that with the UK in full scale wartime production brass/gun metal was by then (say, mid-warish) being conserved for where it was absolutely essential & mazak had become almost the norm. Part of the problem is how DO you tell if a butt plate is a replacement, especially if it has been fitted well & a long time ago?
I don't think there would have been any changing of butt plates at H&H or BSA. I'm sure both facilities had better things to do in the middle of a war. I just suspect that......let's just say 'a significant number' of No4's bore factory fitted mazak butt plates at this time so still bore mazak butt plates when they came out of H&H as finished 4T's.
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