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Originally Posted by
John Kepler
Ever raised chickens? Trust me....a fox is a varmint! So is a mink, so is a weasel!
I eat meat, I've never been opposed to hunting for food. To me, PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals.
And I have never been opposed to eliminating the fox which has been raiding your hen house.
But even varmints deserve to be dispatched as quickly & cleanly as possible.
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And I repeat....is the coyote that occasionally eats the fox in on this gig? The poison that the County used to use to kill foxes back when the world was a bit different was basically rat poison...ground glass and warfarin, an anti-coagulent....the glass chewed their guts up and the warfarin kept'um bleeding. I've had pancreatitis and a bleeding gut can't be much more fun!
Generally Brian, I agree with you....but I'm more than willing to make exceptions without losing any sleep!
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The quote about the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible was by Oscar Wilde, not Winston Churchill.
Jim
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I have had foxes run past my blind, while deer hunting, on 2 occasions. I never even thought about shooting them. There are not enough of them around to be too destructive.
Maybe someone needs to build a better chicken coup?!
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Not to take sides, but fox hunting, English style (now banned), doesn't involve guns or traps. When the hounds catch the fox, they tear it to pieces; IMHO, one does not have to be a nutcase PETA type to have a few qualms about that.
What do you think the fox does when it catches a mouse or a rabbit? What do you think wolves or coyotes do when they catch rabbits or deer?
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Most creatures outside your front door get torn to pieces, consumed, etc. It's called reality.
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Originally Posted by
Vern Humphrey
What do you think the fox does when it catches a mouse or a rabbit? What do you think wolves or coyotes do when they catch rabbits or deer?
But that's what puts us a step above the wild creatures. Or so I thought.
Yes, we kill. Mostly to eat, sometimes for sport.
I'm no bleeding-heart namby-pamby. I eat meat. I hunt & fish. But I believe it is my duty to the animal which I am taking to dispatch it as quickly and cleanly as possible. Note I said "as possible". I know a quick, clean kill, down & out & never knew what hit it, isn't always going to happen. 'Specially on larger game which can sometimes run for hundreds of meters with a hole in its heart. But it is always desirable.
Bottom line, I don't enjoy watching my prey suffer for any longer than it has to.
Are you all implying that you do?
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I think the thread is getting away from the pic
Those of you getting into a debate about the ethics of fox hunting-did you check out the picture in the first post? It is funny. It made me laugh almost as much as this pic. Google Image Result for http://www.alphapatriot.com/home/images/2007/SquirrelKill.jpg
GI Joe- The Real American Squirrel Hunter.
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I was wondering when this was going to be pointed out ;-)
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Originally Posted by
goo
pretty sure antisemantics are inhumane.
Semi-antisemantics are OK; it's the full auto antisemantics that require a special license but even they are completely outlawed in New Jersey, even though many practicing orthodox semantics live in the northern part of the state.