Delisle carbine photos.

[Thunderbox]

That's very interesting Badger and thanks for that. Just zoomed in on my old camp at Hopuhopu near Ngaruawahia! On that basis GDU and his pal won't be visiting us in the near future!

Doh, I wondered what that button did.

Peter, why is your location shown as a well-known motorway service station? Do you live there, or are you on the road with some snazzy mobile comms....?!

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[Badger]

Peter, why is your location shown as a well-known motorway service station? Do you live there, or are you on the road with some snazzy mobile comms....?!

For privacy, safety and security reasons, the location accuracy level is generalized to an area, dependent upon the IP address block that's being serviced ...

So, in some cases it's closer than others, vis-a-vis distance from the IP provider's switching station ...

Regards,
Doug

[Badger]

That's very interesting Badger and thanks for that. Just zoomed in on my old camp at Hopuhopu near Ngaruawahia! On that basis GDU and his pal won't be visiting us in the near future!

Yup, I noticed that too … pretty far away from you …

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[Buccaneer]

Repro "Delisle Carbines" are being made in the UK by C & G Antique firearms based in Hertfordshire, website http://www.cgfirearms.co.uk. I have seen one and it looked very good but as I have never seen an "origional" I have no idea how it would compare. They also produce a custom made transit box for it !!!!

[Mr303]

Hi Peter, so you have spent some time in NZ?

[Peter Laidler]

Several years ago a good friend of mine came to see our DeLisles and made a what can only be described as a SUPERB copy of one. When I say superb, I mean beyond words........ But as an engineer in the motor racing industry with CNC facilities and sound facilities to test it afterwards, that's what you'd expect. Even then, it did pose many problems. The main ones being the random nature of SMLE bodies and milling away a partial diameter to accommodate the barrel etc etc. When he returned to -- several years later, he took it with him

Certainly a worthwhile project but only if you copy the real McCoy I fear............ I have to say that I had thought of converting a deactivated No1 but question whether this, even if the resulting DeLisle was deactivated (on the back of the original deacted No1) would its original deact status be void?

[bouletbill]

I don't collect deacts (don't want a gun if it doesn't go bang , or at least pop) but I've been given the impression that all new deacts have a proof-house certificate , although I don't know how much detail goes on it . I suspect plod will get quite excitable if he finds something that does not conform . He will chuck the book at you ... you know , the one he wrote himself .

Peter , is your "facility" at Warminster open to the public , or by invite only ?

[Brit plumber]

You could convert a Deac SMLE into a Deac carbine and have it re-proofed as a deac, that way all parts get the stamp and a new cert with .45 and new barrel length printed on it. If I had access to the parts (And equipment), I'd have a go, it would prove to expensive for me to buy a deac SMLE, Thompson, Lanchester Mk1 etc. to make a deac delisle. I do know of a very expensive UK made replica, a very very good one made off the plans, (there are live versions available also) deactivated £2500.

[bigduke6]

You could convert a Deac SMLE into a Deac carbine and have it re-proofed as a deac, that way all parts get the stamp and a new cert with .45 and new barrel length printed on it. If I had access to the parts (And equipment), I'd have a go, it would prove to expensive for me to buy a deac SMLE, Thompson, Lanchester Mk1 etc. to make a deac delisle. I do know of a very expensive UK made replica, a very very good one made off the plans, (there are live versions available also) deactivated £2500.

Converting a Deact into anything is a big NO NO You will be looking at 5 years or more of porridge, if your an FAC holder then say goodbye to that, if you did go ahead with it.

I,ve looked into making a repro to original spec made to the original drawing, it can be done but would be section 5, as the barrel would be 8 1/2 " (see pics)





To do it any other way is defeating the object, you could make it so the shroud can not be removed which would make it part of the barrel, but then how do you clean it ?

You can make it 3 1/2" longer but again its not to the same spec as the original, to go to the trouble of machining the reciever, converting the bolt and then to change the design of the
"silenced bit" to me is a waste of time, this is what makes it a "De Lisle," then again I only have a full size drawing of the type produced with metal baffle plates, the first type used rubber as the baffle plates but this soon detereated due to the heat. On a lighter note I would say the De Lisle was one of Dagenham,s finest.

If anyone wants a De Lisle type replica, then have a look on the link, ( you have to type in enfield on the search and it should bring up a page with enfields and a De Lisle at the bottom)

http://www.cgfirearms.co.uk/Gallery.aspx?Arg=LeeEnfield&Ctrl=1

[peregrinvs]

I've been given the impression that all new deacts have a proof-house certificate , although I don't know how much detail goes on it .

Legally a certificate has to be issued by the Proof House when they pass a gun as being correctly deactivated. The details include the type of gun, the person or company who submitted it for certification and the name of the person who passed it. Interestingly the certificate isn't a legal requirement of onward sale or transfer - the legal proof of deactivation are the markings stamped on the gun by the Proof House.

However, as a deact without a certificate is less Mr. Plod friendly, it reduces their value. Sometimes this can work to a buyers advantage as a seller can think it reduces the value more than it actually does. (A replacement certificate costs about £40)

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have it re-proofed as a deac

A quick nit-pick: by definition you cannot proof a deact - a gun is certified as a deact.

Probably like I ought to be...

Mark