1. It appears that you are you're enjoying our Military Surplus Collectors Forums, but haven't created an account yet. As an unregistered guest, your are unable to post and are limited to the amount of viewing time you will receive, so why not take a minute to Register for your own free account now? As a member you get free access to our forums and knowledge libraries, plus the ability to post your own messages and communicate directly with other members. So, if you'd like to join our community, please CLICK HERE to Register !

    Already a member? Login at the top right corner of this page to stop seeing this message.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 11 to 18 of 18
Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    dbarn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-05-2017 @ 10:46 PM
    Posts
    412
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM
    Here's a few photos of the 4.5 Rock that Charlie mentioned earlier. It's definitely not birch or walnut and has been diagnosed as wild cherry cut across the grain, though recently at least one "expert" is of the opinion it's padauk. Wherever there's a scratch or scuffed area, exhibits a orange or salmon color. hth.



    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    Last edited by dbarn; 12-22-2011 at 02:46 PM.

  2. #2
    Legacy Member DaveHH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-22-2024 @ 04:12 PM
    Location
    Northern Calif
    Posts
    1,348
    Real Name
    David Haynes
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM
    So Rock-ola was importing African wood during the war? I really like that Cherry stock.
    Thanks David

  3. Thank You to DaveHH For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    FTD1167's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    08-21-2014 @ 09:22 AM
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    172
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM

    Cherry

    Cherry is a very fine grain, can almost be scratched with your fingernail, It will dent very very easily.
    American Cherry Wood Stair Tread - $33.72 : Country Mouldings
    This is a good example of natural cherry.
    Below is a Cherry stock I have. Close to the look of Birch but has Character and depth to the wood. and lacks the
    tiger stripe effect that shows up on birch in some places.The stock below has been stained with Alcohol Stain, when
    removed it resembled the Moulding from the above link.

    And Dbarn that is a fine walnut stock you have also. I have a SA garand that was cut from the same tree.

    Attachment 29172
    Last edited by FTD1167; 12-22-2011 at 09:38 PM.

  5. #4
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    dbarn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-05-2017 @ 10:46 PM
    Posts
    412
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by FTD1167 View Post

    And Dbarn that is a fine walnut stock you have also. I have a SA garand that was cut from the same tree.

    Attachment 29172
    Thanks for the comment, but it looks nothing like any other walnut stocked carbine I have in the collection. Some folks have also suggested Mahogany, but it does not have the orange or salmon color and does not have the open grain. From what I've read cherry will darken with sunlight. The slingwell still shows the pinkish/orange salmon color.

    It has also been suggested the wood has been dyed red, but if that were the case, the slingwell would have also been dyed. Here's another shot of the slingwell taken vertically.

    Last edited by dbarn; 12-22-2011 at 10:16 PM.

  6. #5
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    FTD1167's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    08-21-2014 @ 09:22 AM
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    172
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM
    My older brother has made Shaker Furniture for 15 years, If you hold a piece of cherry in your hand one time, or run a plane down the length of a board. You will know what cherry is.
    Its like the way a mechanic knows a Small block Chevy and VW engine, How does he know? He just knows, take his word for it.
    Here are some good full length pics in a stack, notice no open grain, that is what gives yours away is the open grain.
    Cherry 4/4 Craft Pack: 10 Board Feet Shipped to You! Lowest Price, Highest Quality for your wood working needs from Woodworkers Source
    If you don't take my word for it, sign up on a woodworking forum and ask them, BTW the African Padauk is on special this month.
    Featured Wood: African Padauk from Wood Workers Source
    Last edited by FTD1167; 12-23-2011 at 07:23 AM.

  7. #6
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    dbarn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-05-2017 @ 10:46 PM
    Posts
    412
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM
    I do not doubt what you are saying and have in fact signed up on a woodworking forum. This is where the comments about padauk and mahogany have come from. Everyone did agree on one thing, that it's not walnut or birch.

    Doing a little bit of research shows that padauk is also native to southern Florida. Additionally those that thought mahogany believed it to be Cuban. There was very little consistency as to what they thought it was. Padauk has the more open grain and the orange/pink color turning maroon over time. This type of wood at least made the most sense. Mahogany also does not have the open grain. The outer surface is no doubt due to 60 years of patina.

    Whatever it is, may have been left over from Rock-Ola's jukebox and radio cabinet days, and used during the perceived walnut shortage.

    Here's another link to cherry planks that have been cut across the grain. Some of these have been aged and are already turning the pinkish/salmon color (scroll down) after being exposed to air and light. Some of these exhibit the rayflecking present when cherry is cut across the grain.

    http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/person...ics/cherry.htm
    Last edited by dbarn; 12-23-2011 at 10:55 AM.

  8. #7
    Legacy Member DaveHH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-22-2024 @ 04:12 PM
    Location
    Northern Calif
    Posts
    1,348
    Real Name
    David Haynes
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM

    I'd like to have a Birdseye Maple stock

    David, your thoughts on the Rock-ola wood genesis sounds very plausible. They made furniture quality Jukebox and speaker cabinets and would have had supplies of suitable wood around regardless of the war. I collected Pinball machines for years (still have a few Gottliebs). Dave Gottlieb was a friend of Howard Hughes and after the war when plywood was almost unavailable, Hughes sold him his remaining material from the Spruce Goose project. So you will find the most beautiful 6-10 ply wood on the 1950s vintage woodrail machines used in the playfield and cabinet. Wood that simply cannot be bought today. Imagine what Rock-ola had in their warehouses.

  9. Thank You to DaveHH For This Useful Post:


  10. #8
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    dbarn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-05-2017 @ 10:46 PM
    Posts
    412
    Local Date
    06-10-2025
    Local Time
    08:21 PM
    Thanks Dave, that's a great analogy. It would be really nice if someone from Rock-Ola were still around today. I would have many questions for them. But I'm sure the same could be said for all of the prime contractors. My appreciation for the way things use to be has grown considerably especially since the recent passing of my parents, members of the greatest generation.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2

Similar Threads

  1. Winchester Cherry Stock
    By Hercules Powder in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-29-2010, 02:15 PM
  2. Quality Hardware.
    By Mikey51 in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-12-2010, 10:35 PM
  3. Quality Hardware Question
    By deserttrans in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-12-2009, 08:03 PM
  4. Quality Hardware with Winchester Stock
    By bfayer in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-04-2009, 08:00 AM
  5. Un-quality Hardware
    By mac in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 04-29-2009, 12:51 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts