Range Report on the 'Big 5 Sports' IBM

[imarangemaster]

I had an original Daisy "Red Ryder" handed down from my oldest brother. It had the brown plastic stock with Red Ryder molded in it.

Shooting with the grandkids is awesome. Here is my grandson last year when we went shooting last year in July in Southern OR. It is a Daisy lever gun.




Bob, I wonder if the M2 sear helps with trigger pull and group size. My CMP Inland has an M2 sear and it has a great trigger pull. It shoots like yours.

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[frankderrico]

Dave, you got it, more kids shooting is a good thing.
The pump held 50 in the tube you threaded in the barrel. Loading the tube one be one took some time. The pump broke down in two. I remember going to the hardware store and buying BB's over the counter, I think I was 8 or 9 at the time. Those were the days.
I've been to some estate sales and found out that their are BB gun collectors and that some of those old Daisy's bring some serious money.....Frank

[INLAND44]

You have a nicely-targeted carbine and a great shooter. You couldn't ask for a better 25 yd target. This would tell me a lot about a carbine, like it has been maintained in service condition, the adjustable sight was installed properly, the front sight has been adjusted properly and the carbine is in excellent overall mechanical condition.

[USGI]

I knew some of you guys would remember that Model 25 pump. Actually that's my second one, the first had something wrong with it and after sending it back for repair a couple of times (still wouldn't work right) - I got a new one out of the deal. Some of the neighbor kids had earlier ones with the wood stocks, but mine were both plastic. I lost it somewhere over the years, but I used to have a small leather pouch (Daisy?) to keep the BB's in. When you opened the flap, you could curl it a little bit, and that would allow you to pour the 50 BB's right into that small opening without spilling a one - if you were good! When I was little, I used to have an older brother help cock it for me - either that or crouch down on my knees with the butt of the gun on the ground, and then pull with both hands. Later I got pretty good at rapid fire, by just holding the trigger back (with it shouldered) and pumping the action as fast as I could. It's a bit hard to read, but I can still make out the words of the "Daisy Pledge" on the butt of the stock. - Bob

[emmagee1917]

My first was one of these Daisys back when I was 6 or 7 . Hunted all sorts of critters out on the farm with it . Spent tubes of BBs trying to shoot dragonflies on the wing , don't recall if I ever contacted with one. I did take many black widows , scorpions , cetipeds , locusts , lizards , mice , rats , rattlesnakes and sidewinders with it . I was trained to take care of my stuff even back then. It currenty resides , lightly oiled , in the back of one of my gun safes .
Chris

[USGI]

Actually, it was a picture of one of your Inland's targets that got me trying for better accuracy. I bought an M2 hammer because of the polished sear contact area, and was planning on putting it in my old S'G' along with a 26-1/2 coil spring. When I asked on the forum about using a spacer with the hammer, JimF4M1's was kind enough to send me a really nice 'WA' hammer so I woudn't have to fool around finding a washer. I've got some parts on order from Bill Ricca that should allow me to put together a complete spare trigger housing - then I'll do some experimenting with the trigger pull, and see what different combinations of the later parts will give me. After reading about the design changes of the sears in Kuhnhausen's manual, I think the M2 sear does have some advantages. I think the M2 sear in the IBM has probably been with the gun for a good 50-60 years and the parts have worn themselves in to give a really smooth feel. After I find a combination of parts that works good, I plan to try that TH in a couple other guns to see how they shoot. I have an Inland with more ME, that already shoots pretty darn good - maybe it will even help it.

Thanks for the BB gun information and the picture of the Grandson with his. Both my older brothers had Daisy lever guns, and always made fun of the way my pump sounded - kinda of went "Booop" when I shot it, so they called it the "Booop Gun." The oldest brother has a Red Ryder with the wood stock that he got in about 1948. He brought it with him when he visited 3 or 4 years ago. It might have had a saddle ring with a leather thong - can't remember for sure. It still shot pretty darn good! I remember getting shot in the butt once with it, when I was a kid - not sure if it was accidental or not? - Bob