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    I think Guide Lamp was in the same complex. They made the Liberator Pistol.
    Any way stumbled on this which may be of help in your research.
    The Madison Historical Society.
    They might be someone to contact, being they are local. I looked for archived newspaper reports, but with out knowing names hard to research.

    Here's a link for you to try. More than likely many still live there that worked at Delco Remy back in the day.

    http://heraldbulletin.com/peopleandp...ose-who-served

    Big Snow Storm here, so.............. plenty of time on hand to help

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    XXX1,

    I see that you came aboard today, welcome. Charlie was quicker on the keyboard then I, maybe it is the snow keeping him indoors, thanks Charlie.

    The War Baby books are considered a premier source of information. I think many of us have them.

    That is a pretty rare carbine. It's not something you will find in the average carbine collectors safe.

    There is a carbine club that has been going since 1976. The Carbine Club - A CMP Affiliated Organization

    A lot of collectors, newsletters, and more. You might consider joining. They would be interested in a date sheet on your carbine. And might also be of help in your searches.

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    More than likely one of the Delco-Remy Clan issues would have used those carbines being presented for PR.

    http://www.and.lib.in.us/files/india...lan6-26-53.pdf

    I'd also try any local papers, colleges and Union (UAW) halls. Some where theres a link.


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    P.S. Typing in your grandpas name on the top of the PDF will not locate him in the article(s)
    I tested that by putting in names from the articles, results all come back negative.
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    Did your grandfather's last name start with a D? iF so what did it end with?

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    Newscotlander,
    E-mail sent.

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    I sent an email to XXX1.

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    I am not sure whether anyone else is tracking this thread or finds it interesting, but if so a quick update. Through the capable assistance of a number of folks on this forum, I have learned that my grandfather, a purchasing agent for Delco-Remy, a GM subsidiary, was presented with this particular M1icon carbine by Inland Division in the fall of 1944. Based on some of the dates that came off the carbine, I suspect he received it almost as soon as it was assembled. Thanks to some leads from Painter777, I have been talking to a fellow who went to high school with my late uncle (between 1938-42) and knew my family quite well back then. He is a big fan of the M1 carbine as he carried one from 1942-45 while fighting under General Patton's command. (If anyone would like me to ask him more about his thoughts on the M1, let me know as I will be talking to again soon.) This particular fellow is trying to track down some additional information on the actual presentation of the M1 such as pictures or a writeup of the event. That's it for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX1 View Post
    M1 carbine as he carried one from 1942-45 while fighting under General Patton's command. (If anyone would like me to ask him more about his thoughts on the M1, let me know as I will be talking to again soon.)
    Just saw this note (now two years old). XXX1: if your friend is still with us and has any interesting stories to tell, please interview him. Get as many stories as you can ... anything about Patton is fascinating -- from North Africa to Sicily to Germanyicon. Please see Heroic Tale of a Tail Gunner for a story I just wrote to preserve this vital part of our history. Don't let this opportunity pass if he is still alive -- we won't have many WWII vets left soon.

    P.S. As a midshipman being trained in amphibious assault in 1967, I served on the U.S.iconS. Monrovia, which was Patton's Command Ship for the Sicily invasion -- perhaps your uncle's friend debarked from that ship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaspriter View Post
    P.S. As a midshipman being trained in amphibious assault in 1967, I served on the U.S.iconS. Monrovia, which was Patton's Command Ship for the Sicily invasion -- perhaps your uncle's friend debarked from that ship?
    You must have trained as some of the last on her. The USS Monrovial APA 31 (attack transport) Dec 1 1942 - Oct 31 1968, then was sold for scrap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimF4M1sicon View Post
    The USS Monrovial APA 31 (attack transport) Dec 1 1942 - Oct 31 1968,
    Jim, you obviously did your homework. She was an old war horse by the summer of 1967 -- the oldest active ship in the Navy. She was rusty and worn. I was training as a US Navy 2nd class Midshipman out of Little Creek Virginia -- Marine boot camp. We were housed in Germanicon POW barracks during that summer. Then the Marines put us on the Monrovia. I will never forget going down to our bunks! They were lined 5 levels high -- 18 inches between racks: metal pipe racks with canvas stretched between the pipes. Over the last millennia the canvas had stretched so badly that when you had to clamour into your rack, the guy's arse in the bunk above sagged into the next lower rack, giving you about a 8-9 inch slot to squeeze through. It was almost impossible to wedge yourself in. I remember a few heavy-weight middies who took forever to wedge themselves in -- usually the guy above have to reorient himself to help create space. The view looking above at the next rack was memorable to this day.

    In the morning we got on our battle gear -- helmets and M-1s (no carbines), climbed down the netting into bouncing LCVPs (just like the Normandy invasion pictures), and circled the Monrovia until the mock invasion started. We landed on a beachhead somewhere in Virginia (near Dam Neck I recall), stormed up the sand dunes, and encountered enemy fire (all safe to ensure no one got killed). We all were screaming gung-ho, and playing John Wayne (remember we were still just kids then).

    Then we bivouacked inland. This is where we then had to field strip our weapons, blindfolded. The M-1s and Colt 1911s were stripped down, cleaned of sand, and put back together. I'm a pretty mechanical guy, so I never had much problem with the blindfolded exercise, but some of my college buddies who were not engineering majors had problems with this big-time.

    Upon reflection -- I really wish I was on the Monrovia for the Sicilian invasion -- but could only live my time with Patton vicariously. When the movie: Patton was on TCM last week, I somehow felt a kinship to this hero.
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