Current Bogus Auctions

[jimb16]

No comment on the sling, but a fake Ordnance stamp on the wrong side of the stock???!!

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[tenOC]

Yeah, how about that? Someone must have been telling him how to stamp it over the phone and he got confused. Could've been a nice stock even if it has no cartouche on the other side.

[Faulkner]

I was talking to a machininst a few weeks back and he said with computer controlled equipment it's easier these days to make a quality fake part than it was for the original makers to make original parts.

[USGI]

After recently looking at Charlie's links to the Gun Broker auctions, I got interested in some of the Inland carbines I saw there. Last night I searched completed sales of "Inland M1 Carbines" and even found one that sold as "unissued" even though it was a re-park (bolt included) - price was above 4K. I've got one that's "unissued" (since it was re-parked) and paid about a tenth of that. The same seller has some current auctions, too - unbelievably long detailed decriptions of parts markings and quality pictures of nearly every small part are included. It's worth a look if you know how to search current and completed auctions on GB. The seller isn't S-T-B, but he's located in the same neck of the woods. - Bob

[tenOC]

Here's the latest restification out of Alabama.

M1 Carbine - '43 Standard Products : Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com


And he's how he bought it last month.

M1 carbine barreled reciever : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

[Claven2]

Here's the latest restification out of Alabama.

M1 Carbine - '43 Standard Products : Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com


And he's how he bought it last month.

M1 carbine barreled reciever : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

FWIW, if he was disclosing these restorations, he does do a decent job of assembling a representative carbine in WW2 trim. Obviously, it's unethical to be selling put-togethers with a few repro parts without disclosing his work though!

[doublenut9]

I am brand new to the collecting business of carbines. I guess my thought is, how do you know if someone is pulling your leg or not? He must have a huge stock pile of parts to pull something like this off.
So he buys the receiver, barrel, etc. then matches it with a stock he has, then passes them off as original. How would you be able to tell if he did it or if it was an arsenal rebuild?
I'm guessing the only way would be an arsenal stamp on the stock...
I'm wondering now if someone did that to me for the two that I bought.

[tenOC]

Only a couple people are doing this over and over for profit.

I am brand new to the collecting business of carbines. I guess my thought is, how do you know if someone is pulling your leg or not? He must have a huge stock pile of parts to pull something like this off.
So he buys the receiver, barrel, etc. then matches it with a stock he has, then passes them off as original. How would you be able to tell if he did it or if it was an arsenal rebuild?
I'm guessing the only way would be an arsenal stamp on the stock...
I'm wondering now if someone did that to me for the two that I bought.

Our friend here bought the receiver and replaced the barrel then added the other parts including some reproduction parts and stock stamp. Flip sight, mag catch are reproduction parts. Probably the safety and hammer too.

[DaveHH]

Solved another puzzle, move it along, pick up a nice Rockola barrel, get rid of a bad BA barrel. It is sad really. Illusion becomes reality.

[ChipS]

he does do a decent job of assembling a representative carbine in WW2 trim.

My original observation. BTW, when I previously noted "It's just business." I meant it was just business to him - not me. I certainly do not condone selling put-togeter carbines without a full disclosure. And even then you have no control over what the buyer discloses if/when he re-sells. This is a major dilema, along with enabling the parting out of substantially as-issued carbines, that I am very concerned about at this point. FWIW. ChipS