1899 M91TS questions

[DocAV]

It looks like the Metal work is an original TS, with Barrel machined stops for the original
"End Locking" Bayonet (Cross Lug and Byt slot).

Very Early ( 1897- about 1900s early) TS had One or Two cross Bolts, until the wood Inletting was re-configured to eliminate the Bolts...occasionally a Wrist Cross-Bolt was added "in the field" if the stock was beginning to crack (during WW I).

The rifle Wood seems to have been converted during WW I from a simple "Musketoon" ( underneath sling swivels) to a Combined Musketoon-Carbine ( side-slings attachments added ( ie, new Barrel sling band), and exchanging the original cross lug, Jug shaped Stock cap with a normal M91 Rifle Bayo. Band ( like the eventual M91/28 Model.).

BTW, the 91 TS was only produced from 1897; the Cav. Carbine 1893, and the Long Rifle 1892. All are classed "Mod.91" ( date of official adoption of Design).

The Number of WW I variants of the TS are mindboggling, as many "conversions" of the Musketoon style to a "Universal" style were carried out by Field Depots and Individual Unit Armourers. So much so that the final "model" only came about in 1928.

Doc AV

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[Aragorn243]

The upgrade that I saw for the original TS appeared to be simply the removal of the side mount lug and welding on of the standard mount lug. The barrel band seems to be unique to the original TS series. That will probably make that stock difficult to find.

I'm getting my info from "Italy's Battle Rifle" by the way. A few copies may still be available. The authors are Russ Atendell and Steve Woodrum.

[Rhpd201]

Doc, if I understand correctly, cross bolts are possible for the original TS? Of all of the rifles I own, the carcano is by far the worst with regard to having any consistency. I'm going to have to buy Italy's Battle Rifle and do a lot more research. Now I'm not sure if the stock could be correct or not. Thanks for the continued good information!