Enfield bolt bodies for sale on e-bay UK FAC holders BEWARE.

[Beerhunter]

The only Firearms with Sec 5 components are handguns !

I am afraid that you last sentence could not be more wrong. Section 5 covers a lot more than handguns and even includes devices that are NOT even fireams!

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[Alan de Enfield]

I am afraid that you last sentence could not be more wrong. Section 5 covers a lot more than handguns and even includes devices that are NOT even fireams!

Example :- Soft point bullet heads (components of ammunition) are section 5 and also counts towards you ammunition allowance even when not 'assembled' into ammunition

[Alan de Enfield]

Whilst everything said above is true, there is a 'loop-hole' where you can legally buy, own, hold or sell a complete Enfield bolt.

I have a No4 Enfield in 410 (shotgun) calibre, this is on my SGC.
My 303's and 7.62's are on my FAC

I wanted to improve the headspace as the 410 cartridge rims are much thinner than a 303 case, I checked, and was told that for a shotgun I did not need any permissons to hold parts such as bolt head, bolt body, barrel etc (parts that for a firearm would be 'pressure bearing' and require approval)

You can therefore (apparently) legally have a complete bolt (or components) as a spare, as long as you possess a shotgun to which it will fit.

[Simon P]

I have already notified my FEO at the Met Police so hopefully they will look in to it.

[Gil Boyd]

If you acquire your relevant Explosives and Firearms Office and send them an email direct they now have to respond to you, with your concerns of serious infringements like this. Better than a "lost or unreported" phonecall. Most aare very good, but many are currently swamped with all this " tri Force and wider markets with less staff" bull ****

[CINDERS]

Our laws on De-act firearms are - Firing pin cut short, bolt fully welded shut (303's usually they weld up underneath from the mag well) Barrel plugged and welded, one gunsmith I know also slots the barrel underneath and the chamber as well.
Last time I was in his shop @6 months ago there was an all serial matching 1916 Lithgow No 1 Mk III full wood and not to shabby that tlc would remedy lined up for the deactivation train it was part of a dec estate the new owners wanted it for a wall hanger.
When I returned a week later to collect one of my weapons, he had done the deed on that 1916 Lithgow rifle......

[Brit plumber]

I can understand the reluctance by the Police to enforce some of these laws as if they were to try and fail with a case, it would open the door to others to do the same if that makes sense. For example, if the CPS wanted to go ahead with a case against the seller of the bolt bodies and they failed because a judge was convinced they were not pressure bearing parts (Or some other reason). Would that not become a precedent for others to follow and sell bolt bodies with no fear and therefor rendering that part of the deact spec now redundant too? It's a long time since I was taught law so I may be completely wrong.

[Brian Dick]

It reminds me of ITAR here in the USA. 90% of normal folks are ignorant of the law or simply don't care. What they don't realize is that if by some chance they get caught up in a violation the fines can be $10,000 - $1,000,000. Ouchie!!

[Peter Laidler]

Aren't we, I mean the UK based barrack room law experts all getting up our own bottoms a bit here. Just let sleeping dogs lie. We've been along this road before on this forum chaps with regards to boltheads too. And on the basis that you buy the parts as a shotgun part then you can have all the shotgun parts that you like. You buy the bolt as a spare part for your .410" Enfield shotgun and what the heck................

Better leave it at that. It's just the thought of one group of enthusiasts running to tell teacher about another group just seems, well...........

[Buccaneer]

Aren't we, I mean the UK based barrack room law experts all getting up our own bottoms a bit here. Just let sleeping dogs lie. We've been along this road before on this forum chaps with regards to boltheads too. And on the basis that you buy the parts as a shotgun part then you can have all the shotgun parts that you like. You buy the bolt as a spare part for your .410" Enfield shotgun and what the heck................

The gun laws in the UK are what they are and not what we want them to be, the reason for flagging this up in the first place was inform UK FAC holders of a potential pitfall in possibly owning something that might, if discovered, cause them problems with their local firearms department, It has been know for someone to loose there FAC for have ammunition that they were not entitled to, one guy even lost his ticket because his 86 year old mother knew where the keys to his gun cupboard was!!!!!
The police can be very picky if they choose to be so why take the risk, yes Sir this spare bolt is for your .410 shotgun but you haven't got one so I will just take away everything else.
Bend the rules no matter how silly they seem to be if you want but is it worth the risk of losing you collection and FAC because of it???????