A study of No.4 Mk.I "Trials" rifles: information requested!

[Doctor1]

Attached is the web address

http://usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=43673

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[Surpmil]

Attached is the web address

http://usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=43673

Thanks, we've got that one in post 13 & 14 above.

[KeaNick]

Just as matter of interest you will find a mounted No4.Mk.1 (T) "Trials " rifle hanging on the wall at the School of Infantry, Waiouru Military Camp. It is presented to the top qualifier at the Sniper Instructors Course run by the School. It was manufactured in 1933 and it's Mk32 scope was manufactured in 1941 - it was equipped with a cut off
I have some knowledge of this weapon as I was issued with it when attending the instructors course in 1978. This was the last course to use the Lee Enfield as the next course used the Parker Hale M82
It still shot well enough but the scope was a problem as it was (as I understand it) one of scopes made for use with the Bren - consequently it did not have the fine increment adjustments of the other scopes on the other rifles and would ' lose it's way ' past about 450 yards. A tendency to fill up with water when it was raining did not help either.
I finally gave up on it and borrowed a rifle from a fellow student to complete the final qualifying badge test.
It was a long time ago but I still rate the course as one of the hardest things I ever did !

[Surpmil]

Got it thanks. Trigger guard loop for action cover is present I see; I remember that one or both of mine had none and that appeared to be from the factory...another column coming up!

I think we discussed this matter once or perhaps it was just in connection with No4 MkI(T)s in general rather than the trials rifles? Anyone remember?

[chosenman]

L42 I think.

[superbee]

Here is a trials rifle not converted to a sniper.

http://usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=43673

[Surpmil]

Here is a trials rifle not converted to a sniper.

http://usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=43673

Calibre/Item: 303
Make: Enfield
Model: Trials Rifle
Action: Bolt repeater
Serial No: 27710-A
Condition: Excellent
Price: $6000
Advertised: 3/10/2014
Licence number: 53082
Phone: 0458 644 527
Comment: This rifle was originally a 1931 trials rifle that was upgraded during WWII to No IV configurations. This rifle has not been fired since upgrade and is in excellent condition. Very rare rifle in Australia. $6000 ONO
Transfering dealer: Tex Gun Supplies, Berrimah NT

Thanks, looks like a late trials body left over that was finished at BSA in 1941. It has the "Model C" back sight modification: what later became the standard for the No4.

[superbee]

Just found in my notes.
1931 trials sniper # A2351 converted to L42A1 in 1971

[Surpmil]

Just found in my notes.
1931 trials sniper # A2351 converted to L42A1 in 1971

Thanks for that one! I do have it logged as being ex-Val Forgett collection and green painted.

Updated list to be posted shortly.

[snipershot1944]

Here is the information on my trials rifle

S/N A1424
Date 1931
Status 4T
Bracket. B30544 from another rifle.
Staked. No (pads)
T stamp. No T stamp, nor TR stamp
Original scope number from wrist. 3193
Matching. Rifle is marching but bracket and scope are not.
Proofs. Metal parts and stock are heavily proofed with Enfield proofs.
Owner. Snipershot1944@yahoo.com
Notes. Has cutoff.