WW2 .303 ammunition

[mike1967]

They are not MkII Specials, just look like a soft nose sporting bullet to me, The MkII Special has an Indian HS and is like a normal MkII (RN) projectile with the lead tip slightly exposed. I have one i can post a picture of but i can't get to it at the moment as I'm painting the house.

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[CINDERS]

i can't get to it at the moment as I'm painting the house

Hope you started at a doorway Mike so the paints dry enough when you finish so you can get back inside

[Chris7171]

I am not sure that MkII are armour piercing or are we talking about the same thing? Armour piercing rounds should be:-
Ctge, Ball Mk VII.s 174gr soft point intro date 10.12.1915 (Point filler steel)
Ctge, Ball Mk VII.P & VII.Pz 174gr soft point intro date 11.1916 (.219" steel core)
Ctge, Ball Mk VII.F & Mk VII.Fz 155gr soft point intro date 23.8.1916 (Turned copper bullet with steel core)
Ctge, Ball MkVII.W & MkVII.Wz 174gr soft point intro date 11.1917 (.250 steel core)
Ctge, Armour Piercing W MkI & Iz soft point intro date 28.2.1929 (.250 steel core)
The only reference I can find to a MkII with a soft pioint is the:-
Ctge, Ball, Cordite, MkII* 215gr soft point intro date ? (Exposed lead tip) not armour piecing.

[mike1967]

Chris 7171 sorry to have gone off topic with the MkII stuff. The bright green packet in one of my photos is AP, Kynoch manufacture, i will take a better picture for you.

[CINDERS]

Vincent your cartridge Head Stamp = V T P ~ Valtion Patruunatehdas Lapua Finland produced Ilmavoimat Konekivaarin Patruuna Kal 7.70 machingun cartridges, which are interchangeable with the .303 cartridge in 'Special' B, 'Special' AP (please do not ask me to type those names again) Could be post war cartridges cases utilized for sporting purposes nice looking pieces Vincent.

Chris a quick story on the Ball for the Bren gun I brought that in NZ and declared it when coming back to Aus but not as collectible ammo as I have open 303's of course the packet was in very good condition when I left it with customs to be picked up later when they ascertained my suitability yadayada. Anyway the suckers were to lazy to open the packet properly and decided a knife would suffice so imagine my dismay when I next saw it the top flaps tongue was nearly severed rendering a really nice packet to just about junk. Next time I will tag it collectible ammo and it will get straight through, though still can only have Ball ammo.

[Vincent]

Thank you, CINDERS.

[browningautorifle]

He started at the doorway so now he's sitting on the counter with a bottle of bourbon...

[mike1967]

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[Chris7171]

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Very nice, I thought full unissued boxes had gone extinct. Any idea what year they are?
I will keep looking and not give up in finding a box.

[mike1967]

Any idea what year they are?

I think they were 1937 or 38, Packet is sealed but i have a loose round, ill check. I think i also have either a DAC or M? 48 Rd box, leave it with me.