M1907 Hooked Quillon - which unit?

[Peter Laidler]

Sorry to be a tad contrary but the Equipment regulations from 1900 to 1944, when the practice was officially abandoned, clearly states that the Durham Light Infantry marking for equipment. arms and appurtenances was DLI. However, DM was used to indicate Durham School - which is probably why it remained unmodified for so long!

All of these identifiable markings plus zillions more are all detailed in a little booklet, taken straight from the Equipment Regulations, available from Brian at BDL Ltd. If it ain't in there, then it ain't from Britain!

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[Peter Laidler]

I take those sources on board Geoff and others but as we now know and recognise, some of these outside reference sources were slightly - and sometimes seriously, er........, what's the word I'm looking for? Ah, yes...., 'found wanting'. as they didn't have access to the ER's and the like. Mind you, even the restricted intelligence based Quartermasters small-arms and equipment marks booklet had a couple of howlers as I recall (and found out later.....) One I seem to remember was RNG as Royal Nepal Government when it was in fact Rhodesia and Nyasaland Govt. But I suppose in truth it could be both. Anyway....., early to bed for a busy day tomorrow!

Brian....., do you have that Equipment Regs marking booklet available?

[Brian Dick]

You guys in the UK and Europe can also source the little marking disc booklet from John and Sue at DS Solutions. Excellent folks too!

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I still have plenty of copies too.

[Flying10uk]

This thread has got me wondering on what is/was the general policy within the British Army of a soldier losing equipment in a battle/warzone such as a bayonet or other items of personal equipment normally carried by a soldier on active service and in action??? I would imagine that it would be quite easy to lose kit in the heat of a battle. Would the soldier have to pay for lost kit out of his own pocket??? I'm guessing that, at the very least, he would have to give some kind of plausible/believable explanation for any lost items.

[Peter Laidler]

If he lost it through sheer negligence, wherever he was, then he'd be charged for the item. During operations things are a lot different but it would all depend on the circumstances and the situation. However, on operations the OC has extra authority to write-off called 'Executive powers and authority of write-off' or something like that. That extends to, well....., pretty well everything from a Land-Rover, Truck to a tank

But believe me, wherever you were, losing something deemed 'WOCS*', 'Starred' or 'V&A' loosely designated 'controlled stores' was something that you never ever contemplated unless you were in the middle of your worst nightmare. In fact, just those words together - lost and WOCS' has brought me out in a cold sweat.
* Firearms were always in the highest category of WOCS and a loss would ALWAYS be followed by a searching and VERY detailed Board of Enquiry where the usual legal niceties such as Habeas Corpus, Magna Carta, common law - or even statute law - etc simply don't apply. The only rules that apply are those laid down by the Convening Board of Officers. Ho ho ho....., been on both sides of that!

[Surpmil]

I ran into this M1907 hooked quillon bayonet. Can someone let me know which unit it was used with?

A WWI trophy? Quite possibly in Germany. Blade looks to have been well sharpened and well used.

[Promo]

Who knows where and when left ... Austrian police in some parts used SMLE rifles after WWII for quite some time. Probably came among those?

I picked it up for the fair price and plan to somewhen put it in a sell/trade, whenever I feel the situation is right.

[Surpmil]

Of course someone in Germany did remind me about the replica hooked quillons made for the movie Gallipoli...caveat emptor!