Fifty minutes watching this will be well spent - the truth about the Titanic sinking

[CINDERS]

Plenty of those theories Gil what with Rosewell, Area 51, The Philadelphia experiment, Did the moon landing occur tell you a really good read is a book called Dark Waters By Lee Vyborny and Don Davis not saying to much but its nuclear reactor was the size of a kitchen oven grab a copy and come back when you have read it.........

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[bigduke6]

I,ve read about the Titanic, Olympic etc some time back, can't remember the whole plot so will need to catch up and watch the link, but for someone who has served an Apprenticeship in a Shipyard and having sailed on a few ships, the fact is a yard does make mistakes...... accidents that need to be covered up.... are and swept under the carpet if possible and kept as quiet as possible.

Although not on the same scale but, Take one Type 42 destroyer, HMS Sheffield (D80) think we all know what happened to it.....

When it was being built due to some work being done in one of the tanks or void spaces, can't remember the exact reason for the accident (am sure it was a ruptured oxygen line from burning equipment and along with other work being carried out) an explosion occurred which ripped through the aft end, the explosion was so severe, part of the Hull section was removed and a part from the " Hércules " used to replace it, an identical ship being built at the same time for the Argentine Navy............

Although the work was all complete for the visit of a Royal........ I very much doubt in the conversation it was said, " By the way we had a massive explosion in the arse end that killed two of the lads"

I remember the pics that were in the training school very well, some quite vivid (all in Black and White) ...... strange thing is we were told the story not because of the logistics behind it but because of the after affects regarding injury, in which many years later the Workers who were on the deck at the time suffered bad knees through the force of the explosion, it never affected them at the time but much later in life.

I don't know the ins and outs of Lloyds back then but doubt it differed too much from today, apart from computers and paperwork.

The fact everything has a number etc, and certain parts are tested and passed by them, so if your traveling past Taiwan, and need a spare head for a Geny, its a good opportunity , but for lloyds to even look at it, it needs to comply with a list of steel requirements, the steel itself will need certificates before it would even make it to a foundry to be cast etc...........

Regarding the props, the Titanic, Olympic and Britanic had one fixed prop (centre) which was a complete casting and one either side which was a variable prop, (not to be compared with todays variable / controllable pitch propeller, otherwise known as CPP or VPP) the pitch could only be set in dry dock, but with this set up it had three blades attached to the hub so if one was lost due to collision damage etc, its not a complete casting to replace and an easy job to replace.

A job lot of ships, would require spares, known spares such as props etc would of been cast at the time of the build or a job lot would of been cast for the three vessels, "even back then time is money" and doubt White Star would hang around waiting for a full prop or blade to be cast, they would of had spares on hand even on board if possible or at set locations.

Ship yards don't wait to build another until the first is built its a production line (well it used to be ), things are ordered well before the keel is laid, today the Main Engines are ordered a few years before the build commences.

A blade or full prop could of been marked up with an ID Number but maybe used for another vessel when the need arrises........ at the the end of the day it all comes down to the bean counters, its possible that one set of spares was made but one set for each vessel was accounted for......

I do enjoy the conspiracy theories, regarding the Moon landings, they say it would cost more than the mission itself to pay everyone off who were involved to keep quiet........

Then there is the all time favourite, " Who was standing on the grassy knoll"

[WarPig1976]

Then there is the all time favourite, " Who was standing on the grassy knoll"

Now that one I do believe.

[Paul S.]

After reading Bid Duke's post I suspect that half if not all conspiracy theories are the product of people with a supposition that the 'evidence' adds up to 'X' while ignorant of what lies in the background - in this case, the how of the ship-building in the day, and the what of White Star's and Lloyd's oversight, etc. But then, that is just my suspicion which is essentially very much like a conspiracy theory.

On another note and in another ocean: USS Conestoga Wreckage Discovered Nearly a Century After Sinking - ABC News