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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    On occasion though, you do find the troops shooting by themselves on a range on off time and the just happen to be consuming Govt issue... Been there, done that...Darren?
    I do know it does occur, but I do not know of any official sanction to do so, how the troops got that ammo there would be a Hardy Boys grade mystery...

    While I don't own a one of these pistols, I have observed that running IVI 9mm will hard recoil, batter the slide, and incur stoppages in a civilian Sig P226, whereas the same gun with American Eagle 9mm runs flawless. It lends credit to my idea that our Inglis Browning's are not inherently unreliable, just that IVI ammo may be a little warm for the recoil springs to manage. Jim, I do recall speaking with a friend of yours, D.Haines that he remarked 9mm ammunition used to come labelled differently for SMG vs Pistol Only, nowadays we only get one type, regardless of application. I do wonder if there was some powder loading difference between the rounds, and if the SMG spec stuff became the mainstay of the pistols.

    If I had some IVI 9mm issue ammo and a chrony I could put that theory to actual test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    I do know it does occur, but I do not know of any official sanction to do so, how the troops got that ammo there would be a Hardy Boys grade mystery...

    While I don't own a one of these pistols, I have observed that running IVI 9mm will hard recoil, batter the slide, and incur stoppages in a civilian Sig P226, whereas the same gun with American Eagle 9mm runs flawless. It lends credit to my idea that our Inglis Browning's are not inherently unreliable, just that IVI ammo may be a little warm for the recoil springs to manage. Jim, I do recall speaking with a friend of yours, D.Haines that he remarked 9mm ammunition used to come labelled differently for SMG vs Pistol Only, nowadays we only get one type, regardless of application. I do wonder if there was some powder loading difference between the rounds, and if the SMG spec stuff became the mainstay of the pistols.

    If I had some IVI 9mm issue ammo and a chrony I could put that theory to actual test.
    Inglis High Powers generally have 70 year old springs....which should be changed with new (18.5 lb minimum) [I recommend 20lb or 22lb] mainsprings.


    CDN MkI is very close to Brit WW2 MkIIz, mostly related to bullet construction.

    CDN MkI 9mm ball is the NATO reference for 9x19mm NATO... 1246 fps 115gr ball

    9mm MkIIz was rated at 1,250 fps at 60 feet but in 1944 this was increased to 1,300 fps at 60 feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Enfield View Post
    Inglis High Powers generally have 70 year old springs
    We had some NIB warstock pieces overseas, that the gun plumbers went over before issue, they seemed to suffer the same FTFeed issues as the jalopy peacetime units. Everyone blamed the magazines, but new production magazines out of the wrapper did nothing to cure the issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    labelled differently for SMG vs Pistol Only,
    That was a different lot of ammo with increased power for the SMGs but still it was used on the pistols to some extent. D H had the pistol team for a bit, he'd know. Our Hi-Powers were fine when I was young, they're hard used now. No idea how many rounds have been through some of them.
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    Of course we want a comprehensive on it... Picture heavy to say the least. Then the targets...

    I quit shooting and using Norc brass some time back but still find the odd loaded one when I shoot. I use them and salvage the brass as I have scads of better stuff. It's not dangerous but I just don't like it. When it comes to me once fired, I salvage it...I have lots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Of course we want a comprehensive on it... Picture heavy to say the least. Then the targets...

    I quit shooting and using Norc brass some time back but still find the odd loaded one when I shoot. I use them and salvage the brass as I have scads of better stuff. It's not dangerous but I just don't like it. When it comes to me once fired, I salvage it...I have lots.
    It arrived, it is a beauty and a rare gun in Canadaicon.At one time believe to be less than 25 in Canada. Marked LE serial number, no import marks and tight fit on everything. The mags are borderline and fit far too tight. Lots of P mags so Colt mags have a "pinning" issue by the look of it. Will post in the pictures in the AR forum in the next couple of days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
    so Colt mags have a "pinning" issue by the look of it. Will post in the pictures in the AR forum in the next couple of days.
    I have encountered this as well from time to time, and simply dress down the head of the rivet until it no longer interferes with seating of the magazine. If the rivet used is made of steel it can be polished smooth and darkened with a dab of cold blue for a nice finished look.

    Sometimes importers get over zealous with magazine limiting to the point of hurting proper function, I have a number of excellent quality 15 round M1icon carbine magazines that have been pinned too tight to allow the loaded magazine to seat on a closed bolt. I am still pondering how I am going to fix that without making a dog's breakfast of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    I have encountered this as well from time to time, and simply dress down the head of the rivet until it no longer interferes with seating of the magazine. If the rivet used is made of steel it can be polished smooth and darkened with a dab of cold blue for a nice finished look.

    Sometimes importers get over zealous with magazine limiting to the point of hurting proper function, I have a number of excellent quality 15 round M1icon carbine magazines that have been pinned too tight to allow the loaded magazine to seat on a closed bolt. I am still pondering how I am going to fix that without making a dog's breakfast of it.
    Will dress down the pin, appears that is the issue.

    Thanks Darren
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