WWT ?

[emmagee1917]

Billy Dixon did his feat in front of several witnesses and it was officially measured by the corp of engineers . He freely admitted that no small measure of luck was involved .
If I had the choice between skill and skill with a bit of luck , I'd pick the second every time .
It's not that he could do it again as much as he's done it one more time than anyone else .
Chris

[30Three]

Having read the autobiography of Sgt Craig Harrison; it became clear that publishing the names of sniper's is a really bad idea. It caused huge problems for Sgt Harrison when he returned home. I remember seeing the news in the paper and they even told where he was from. I was surprised and thought it a really stupid thing for the press to do! Unfortunately the journo's only care about a scoop ot the life of the person in the story.
Luckily it seem's that writing his story has helped him back from a very dark place. Well worth a read if you have the time!

With regard to the latest scoop; is a kill shot really possible? What energy would be left in the bullet after 3450 metre's? What round does that rifle use?

[browningautorifle]

What round does that rifle use?

Cut from their own story... "The sniper used a McMillan TAC-50 sniper rifle"

[Gil Boyd]

30Three,
You nailed it.
Its not now, when the high fives are slapped with euphoria from all angles Military from your mates and the PR department, it is when the family or country of that person, seek the individual who pulled the trigger, who will then have to justify his actions, is when he will wish he was anonymous.....as he will find out he is all alone with no support, especially from the very same PR department who pushed his name to the fore.
" A snipers work has to be a silent art of warfare, not one to be idolised when political aims are failing!!"

[CINDERS]

who will then have to justify his actions

Justify what actions Gil and to who! the do gooders that cry foul when the coalition forces take out an insurgent, the poor bl**dy snipers have copped it in the neck for years sometimes unjustly more so from an unknowing public.
They are highly intelligent and skilled persons whom should remain anonymous, keeping the pressure on that old mate who sneeks around at extreme range might not be as safe as they think they are, a good fear factor when his buddy just up and explodes when a 50 cal round tears him in half at a few thousand yards from any coalition post.
Give them all the support we can, as a sniper is a force multiplier not a dark person who does it willy nilly.

[Gil Boyd]

I am generalising................. from past experiences where many years later men are held to account, because their names have been published in this way.

[CINDERS]

A performance chart using a 750gn A Max if they were using that projectile but I feel they may have something even slipperier through the air the 50 round still has 2,843/Ftlbs of energy at 2000 yards as a guide one may fathom it would possibly still connect at the stated range with 1000/ftlb +- at the extremis 3000 yd shot.

[Ridolpho]

First round kill shots at extreme range need to be grounded in terms of statistics. For this equipment combined with a talented sniper, what is the actual probability of a single shot hitting a man-sized target at this range? If it's one in ten (10%), then the successful shot is as much a fluke as anything. If it's nine in ten (90%) which seems unlikely, then individual success cases would be pretty much all down to excellent equipment and skill. For comparison, in 1945, the Germans determined that at 1000m, the probability of making a hit was three in five or 60% with a K98k based rifle. With regard to the present story, it would be interesting to know if multiple shots were taken from the building during the process of making the incredibly long shot or if, perhaps, the location had been used for days with loads of ranging and other data being gathered. Next time you're up in an office tower use google map to ID a location 3.45 km away and see what it looks like. Incredible!

Ridolpho

[Peter Laidler]

Gil makes and EXTREMELY good and absolutely relevant point in thread 16. Recent experience in the UK has told us this loudly and clearly. Lots of these things we did are all good fun when you're in your 20's but recent experience has shown that they have a nasty habit of coming back to haunt you many years later.

Personally, older and with the benefit of hindsight, I simply cannot believe that these people have allowed their names to be released............ simply mind bogglingly stupid

[Gil Boyd]

..............................and the enquiry is still very much alive too!!!