British Pattern 1914 Remington low serial number 00902

[Melanie_Daniels]

Melanie-- I am a bit confused with your statement. The asterik * on the Pattern 1914 denotes the modification to the MKI* specification with a new bolt, barrel and extractor. Each of these parts will have an asterik * on the part to show that it meets the MKI* specification. The encircled star was a Winchester inspector's proof mark on the Pattern 1914. On the Winchester M1917, the encircled star noted that the rifle passed the compatiablity test and the parts were interchange with the Remington and Eddystone rifles.. A letter was sent out by General John T. Thompson to Winchester and Remington, Ilion, NY that a encircled star would be placed on the left side of the receiver next to the US Ordnance mark to denote the compatibility of the rifle. Even though the encircled star is found on the Winchester M1917 none have been noted on the Remingtons. The Army at that point started to use the date of January 1, 1918 as a date for compatiablity and shipment of all brand M1917 rifles to the AEF. Like anything when the bad word gets around its very hard to get rid of. Winchester complained about the "discrimination" of their rifles to the Adjutant General of the US Army.

I didn`t speak about the star in circle. I found four early Eddystone and one early Remington (9-17 to 12-17) with a star without circle. In this time the problem was that only 95 per cent of the parts were interchangeable. So they marked the rifles with not interchangable parts with a star. The Winchester problem was, that only 80 per cent of the parts were interchangeable with the others so that they marked the weapons with interchangeable parts (star with circle). That is the information I got from a guy who worked with General Crozier.

[fjruple]

I didn`t speak about the star in circle. I found four early Eddystone and one early Remington (9-17 to 12-17) with a star without circle. In this time the problem was that only 95 per cent of the parts were interchangeable. So they marked the rifles with not interchangable parts with a star. The Winchester problem was, that only 80 per cent of the parts were interchangeable with the others so that they marked the weapons with interchangeable parts (star with circle). That is the information I got from a guy who worked with General Crozier.

Wow that's neat. My understanding was that no Eddystone or Remingtons were observed with a star. Would have pics by any chance? Thanks for the info.

--fjruple

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Overall condition would seem to indicate that this rifle spent some time in India. It is not remarkable other than the low serial number and characters used, broad arrow/RE/00902.

I notice that the RE is directly over the serial number? Does anyone have any idea when Remington moved to the RE in Oval over the chamber?

--fjruple

[AD-4NA]

Curious, Is 00902 rebuilt and in a MKII stock sans volley sight and marking disc or is it a restoration in a M1917 stock?

[Old Guard]

I have a question. I have a P14 with long range sights
Ser no 98193. The only date I can find is ‘16 on right side of chamber.
It is marked ERA above the number.
What do I have?

[breakeyp]

I have a question. I have a P14 with long range sights
Ser no 98193. The only date I can find is ‘16 on right side of chamber.
It is marked ERA above the number.
What do I have?

Pattern 1914s don't have a date on the receiver like the Lee Enfields. ERA is a maker marking for Remington's Factory at Eddystone Pa. Other than this, I don't understand your "What do I have"?

[Old Guard]

Sorry I wasn't clear before, but I'm new at this. The rifle is a P14 with all the sights in place.. I'm not sure what a fatboy stock is. I took some pics but they are on my iPhone and I haven't figured out to send them.

[Old Guard]

Pattern 1914s don't have a date on the receiver like the Lee Enfields. ERA is a maker marking for Remington's Factory at Eddystone Pa. Other than this, I don't understand your "What do I have"?

The ‘16 is under the chamber on the lower left side.
On the left reciever rail is a broad arrow stamp and what appears to be Britt.
Acceptance marks.
Sorry if this is poor form but I’m new at this.

[breakeyp]

You are right so far. Fat or perch belly stock was unique to Eddystone.

[Old Guard]

You are right so far. Fat or perch belly stock was unique to Eddystone.

Thanks, what else should I look for? Maybe I bother too much, but I’m
not used short answers, I’m a talker.

[Promo]

Originally the rifle would have a IE, IR or IW in a roundel on the right side of the stock at the butt. If it isn't there, the stock was sanded.