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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    Regarding Israeli M1icon Carbines: "I also encountered a school group on a field trip to the limestone caves at Rosh HaNikra and was surprised to see the teachers were all carrying M1 carbines with U.S. marked mag pouches on the butt stock."
    Don't know if I could find it now, but a few years ago there was a thread in our M1 Carbine forum discussing their use by Israeli teachers and others seen on the streets there. It was pointed out that in most of the pictures, the Carbines didn't look like they had magazines in them. Did you notice that when you were stationed there? I thought they may have had 5 round mags - or maybe were required to keep the mags out of the gun until needed. Can't remember what the consensus on that was. - Bob

    I found several links with the answer. Here's a couple of them - Now I remember!

    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....419#post337419
    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...i-tour-guides/
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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    Don't know if I could find it now, but a few years ago there was a thread in our M1icon Carbine forum discussing their use by Israeli teachers and others seen on the streets there. It was pointed out that in most of the pictures, the Carbines didn't look like they had magazines in them. Did you notice that when you were stationed there? I thought they may have had 5 round mags - or maybe were required to keep the mags out of the gun until needed. Can't remember what the consensus on that was. - Bob

    I found several links with the answer. Here's a couple of them - Now I remember!

    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....419#post337419
    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...i-tour-guides/
    Since Rosh HaNikra is right at the Lebanon/Israel border and the fact there have been sea-borne attacks against Israeli citizens launched from the Southwest corner of Lebanon the teachers I saw had their mags inserted in their rifles. I checked out the links you posted and kudos to imarangemaster for knowing the difference between Duck Hunter and Beo Gam.

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    Pretty sad when your teachers are armed on a school excursion guess that's the way of life in those global areas pretty sad really glad I am in Aus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Pretty sad when your teachers are armed on a school excursion ...
    Pretty sad if your teachers aren't allowed to be armed while being in charge of your kids.

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    A favourite terrorist tactic is attacking/hostage of school bus and children, and schools. Arming teachers makes them less tempting.

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    The M1icon would keep would probably most students in line.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

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    The students would know why the teachers are armed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    The students would know why the teachers are armed.
    I thought I'd leave the smileys off and see if the joke shot over, under, or on target.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

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    There hasn't been a successful attack on an Israeli school since the Seventies. Why? The Israelis hardened their schools and have armed guards and armed teachers to protect the children. We could do the same thing here but then certain groups wouldn't be able to use dead children to push their anti-gun agenda.

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    At one of the schools that my late father attended in the 1940's the headmaster, being a WW1 veteran, would "bring-out" his WW1 Webley .455 revolver, once a year, for the school's sports day for use as a "starting gun". This would have been in the WW2 period or the years immediately after. Although my father didn't like participating in sports he liked the sports day at this particular school because he got the chance to see the headmaster's Webley revolver. How things have changed to what they are today.

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