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    Quote Originally Posted by ncin1911 View Post
    The TN means Trimble to NPM
    N was NPM's contractor code.

    Like LW-B is Lumb Woodworking to IBM
    Thank you for correcting my misinformation, I always thought it just stood for Trimble nursery. Now I know only the first initial stands for Trimble nursery.thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    Thank you for correcting my misinformation, I always thought it just stood for Trimble nursery. Now I know only the first initial stands for Trimble nursery.thank you
    This will be helpful regarding stocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    Overall impression...I think I got my money's worth. very-good-to-fine national postal meter. some dried carbon + grease around the chamber mouth, but no rust visible anywhere. The usual very strong fresh-from-the-ole-crate surplus smell was present. The bolt cycles veeerrrry smooth. The trigger group is a little jiggly, first carbine so no comparison for what is normal.
    NPM was the only company to pass the rain test. Apparently they did something different (heat treating? Finish?). My NPM is a late one made in 1944, has an IBM barrel, it is the most accurate carbine I own. Sounds like you got a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    The trigger group is a little jiggly, first carbine so no comparison for what is normal.
    That's pretty much normal. Nothing to worry about unless it drops down enough to affect feeding from the magazine. The rear lug of the TH can be peened to tighten it, but affects the appearance a bit. There's a picture of the peening shown on the CC club website under parts, trigger housings. - Bob

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    Glad you got one. I had a Rock in my cart and was almost done with the purchase when the system went kerplooey! One more click and I'd have confirmed the sale. When I got back in, the gun was gone from my cart! 9:04 est. Some people have tried to tell me the system didn't crash. I know it did! Congrats on a successful buy!
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    I think they had a short timer on cart reservations. not saying you delayed, but a lot of folks added one to cart, then perused for a couple minutes looking for other models, then clicked on cart and it refreshed to empty. I went straight to what I had planned as first choice, added to cart, checked the IBMs for my kid and saw only lower grade ones left, and said screw it and checked out. I had only planned on getting one anyway, a didn't think it wise to get picky. if some people were prompted to create an account at checkout, that may have take longer than the timeout and they got theirs booted from cart. lot's of possibilities for why. every site I've seen the code for has a cart timer, where cart item is returned to main inventory after a period. if you go to checkout after the timeout, it tries to re-reserve the item, unless the inventory is exhausted then you are screwed.

    reading up on rear sights, I wonder if any have original flip sights? mine does has the later slide, I think the stamped one. I imagine the swap occurred in the one govt. inspection that midway claimed happened in the early 50's I think.
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    I wouldn't bother with the jiggly trigger housing. Carbine people don't really care and it doesn't alter accuracy. Just don't try to peen the receiver lug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    I think they had a short timer on cart reservations. not saying you delayed, but a lot of folks added one to cart, then perused for a couple minutes looking for other models, then clicked on cart and it refreshed to empty. I went straight to what I had planned as first choice, added to cart, checked the IBMs for my kid and saw only lower grade ones left, and said screw it and checked out. I had only planned on getting one anyway, a didn't think it wise to get picky. if some people were prompted to create an account at checkout, that may have take longer than the timeout and they got theirs booted from cart. lot's of possibilities for why. every site I've seen the code for has a cart timer, where cart item is returned to main inventory after a period. if you go to checkout after the timeout, it tries to re-reserve the item, unless the inventory is exhausted then you are screwed.
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    Not the case. I went immediately to the checkout. I was almost done when the system went down. I couldn't complete the checkout due to the system failing. They even apologized for the glitch and posted the apology on line. They failed, not me, and they admitted it. I got the boot at 9:04 EST. I already had an account and they had my CC number on file. I do business with them often. The same thing happened to several people that I know of and it happened to all of us at exactly the same time. You can't blame it on us waiting too long to check out.
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    I really don't believe it was anything other than too many people selecting something they weren't going to get, because there weren't enough of them, and the system gliched. Some people got one because that was the number available.
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    Wow, I am glad I bought 8 wrapped originals back in '16 when I got my second WIN. They look the best with a 15 rounder

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