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Rob Ski World at War: 700 Yards... 09-17-2021, 08:27 AM
champ0608 That's a fun video and a cool... 09-17-2021, 10:01 AM
Rob Ski Thank you for watching! Those... 09-17-2021, 10:23 AM
30Three A great rifle and excellent... 09-17-2021, 02:21 PM
Bob Womack I loved you video and your... 09-17-2021, 03:15 PM
Rob Ski Thank you Bob. And to answer... 09-17-2021, 06:11 PM
Alan de Enfield The quality of the Winchester... 09-18-2021, 03:40 AM
Rob Ski Thank you very much Alan!... 09-18-2021, 06:33 AM
Alan de Enfield Just a little more... 09-21-2021, 09:38 AM
Rob Ski That is very cool info. Now,... 09-21-2021, 09:50 AM
Roy W Excellent shooting, great... 09-17-2021, 03:49 PM
bros I really enjoyed that... 09-18-2021, 11:35 AM
amadeus76 Good to see you branching out... 09-18-2021, 06:09 PM
Rob Ski Hahahahaha! Thank you! :D ... 09-19-2021, 12:56 PM
30Three Here's a photo of the... 09-19-2021, 05:02 PM
Ovidio What a nice channel. I... 09-19-2021, 10:09 AM
Surpmil Well done! Now, did the Home... 09-20-2021, 01:02 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Ski View Post
    That is very cool info. Now, so it looks like USAicon didn't have a good track record since WWI with Britishicon 303. Going back into the 40's, seems that Winchester again chocked and their RAF ammo was downgraded to "non aircraft use only". However, we think this is mainly because of the poor quality control on primers, fear of having dud round on the aircraft, right? Because performance wise, not talking about shooting, but from the doppler radar, rounds were consistent on the velocity and SD: 17fps is not bad for mass produced ammo.
    I have one more question, accuracy wise, how is the Winchester ammo comparing to regular British surplus production?

    My understanding was the dimensional consistency. I have not been able to identify if this was bullet dimensions, or case dimensions. I am guessing that as it resulted in jamming / blockages / non-ejection that it was inconsisten case dimensions.


    Just as another example ( later manufacture and now made to SAAMI dimensions) the difference between US manufactured (commercial) 303 and 'mil-spec' 303 dimensions.

    The Win cases are the 'thin ones' and the Prvi-Partisan are the 'thicker ones'. Using the Win. cases with the thin rims, can result in you increasing your effective headspace by ~ 5 thou. The Win. and Rem. tend to be at the bottom end of the specification (Min spec 0.054") whilst the PP and Mil-Spec tend to be around the top-end (Max spec 0.064")

    Notice also how thin the 'SAAMI' cases are around the "web"
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    Excellent shooting, great video and impressive film of the bullet swirl

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    I really enjoyed that video.....nice shooting by the way!

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    Good to see you branching out Rob…

    I promise not to tell the Files you’re being unfaithful. ;-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by amadeus76 View Post
    Good to see you branching out Rob…

    I promise not to tell the Files you’re being unfaithful. ;-p
    Hahahahaha! Thank you!

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    What a nice channel. I immediately subscribed!
    Thank you Ovidio!!!

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    Here's a photo of the original Winchester Red Label
    The ammunition is not in as clean condition as your test box.
    Attachment 120191

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    Quote Originally Posted by 30Three View Post
    Here's a photo of the original Winchester Red Label
    The ammunition is not in as clean condition as your test box.
    Attachment 120191
    Mine main aluminum box was completely seal off. When I opened the can, there was no signs of moisture penetration or anything. My ammo was made in October 1941, so only few months after your box!

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    What a nice channel. I immediately subscribed!
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Well done! Now, did the Home Army get any No4(T)s by air delivery?
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