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    You trying to get me locked up ?

    I'm pretty sure that would be illegal in the UKicon - a shotgun firing 'slugs' is classed as a 'firearm' and would need to be on my FAC (Firearm certificate), as a shotgun its on my SGC (Shotgun Certificate)
    There is a maximum pellet size to be classed as a shotgun - I could be wrong but I thing its SG or maybe AAA size.

    Although my son has a BP 50 cal on his SGC the only difference is that the 410 would be fired from a 'cartridge'

    Tricky one that !!!!

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    Too bad as a 410 with three roundballs does make a quite a show on late season vegetables.

    If you do restore it, wouldn't you also have to reclassify it as well as have it proofed?

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    The Proof and Testing of Firearms

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    Too bad as a 410 with three roundballs does make a quite a show on late season vegetables.

    If you do restore it, wouldn't you also have to reclassify it as well as have it proofed?
    If it was restored as a 410 then it would stay as a shotgun and would not need re-proofing.

    If it was rebarreled as a 303 then yes it would be re-classified as a firearm.

    The strange thing about prooving is that legally you dont need have a gun proofed - if you sell it then it must be proofed. If you give it away or use it yourself then it doesnt need to be proofed.

    I had a very heated exchange with our local Constabulary Firearms Licensing department over several weeks when I built my Enforcer Clone :

    1) You are not a gunsmith so you cannot build a gun - yes I can
    2) If you buy a barreled action and put 'woodwork' onto it you will have to have it re-proofed. No I wont - the Proof house request wood to be removed for proofing.
    3) Legally you need to have the gun proofed before you can use it - no I dont.
    4) You will not be allowed to use an un-proofed gun in public (ie at a range) - yes I can

    I eventually won all of the arguments - it helps to read up a little before tackling those Civil Servants in 'authority'.

    http://www.gunproof.com/Proofing/proofing.html

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    Ah the joys of dealing with the plod in the UKicon. Yes if you want to be an enfield 'collector' over here, it pretty much must be in slightly butchered shotgun form unless you're a firearms dealer, or are persuasive enough to somehow prevail upon your local firearms officer that having ten 303 slots on your ticket is perfectly reasonable and justifiable. (shotgun licenses allow any number of guns, storage space permitting I believe)
    Point two above re putting woodwork on a barrelled action is absolutely ludicrous - can they really have thought that to be the case or were they just being deliberately obstructive?
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