C7CT clone

[browningautorifle]

the C8 surplus upper I have on a civilian made colt canada lower

I agree, they were the way the gun was designed and nice to handle. I asked when the whole thing came out why we didn't just adopt carbines anyway instead of making a rifle as well. Then years later the C7A2 comes out...except the front end is heavy. The little C8 would have worked fine.

[Eaglelord17]

I agree, they were the way the gun was designed and nice to handle. I asked when the whole thing came out why we didn't just adopt carbines anyway instead of making a rifle as well. Then years later the C7A2 comes out...except the front end is heavy. The little C8 would have worked fine.

I actually quite liked the original C7, I have a upper set up along those lines as well (surplus C7/C8 upper receiver with a 20" barrel on it). Both the original C7 and C8 I found quite handy and fairly light. Personally I would take a original C7 over a C7A2 any day as my job in support trades weight and not having to worry about losing my zero matters more than the front heavy and heavy rifle the C7A2 is. Agreed the simple adoption of the C8 would have saved the effort of both, and seems to be where they are heading today.

[browningautorifle]

Agreed the simple adoption of the C8 would have saved the effort of both, and seems to be where they are heading today.

I had a C7 clone myself back then and carried it daily without any notice...shot PWT with it. I'd show up for a bugout and be the first man ready, storeman notice someone with a rifle while his keys were still in hand, then saw it was me. I used to sign out C8 lowers for training when the females were trying to qualify, the short butt was still too long. All said we didn't need the C8. I reminded them of the AK's similarities that had dominated the battlefield for 40 years at that point. Yes, they finally realized we didn't need a bigger model.

[Eaglelord17]

I had a C7 clone myself back then and carried it daily without any notice...shot PWT with it. I'd show up for a bugout and be the first man ready, storeman notice someone with a rifle while his keys were still in hand, then saw it was me. I used to sign out C8 lowers for training when the females were trying to qualify, the short butt was still too long. All said we didn't need the C8. I reminded them of the AK's similarities that had dominated the battlefield for 40 years at that point. Yes, they finally realized we didn't need a bigger model.

Realistically it brings not much benefit for the size difference. With irons there is a bit of a argument due to longer sight radius, but with all the fancy optical sights in existence now it really doesn't matter. Either way the C7 isn't a big rifle, smaller than many of the bolt action carbines I have. What I can't wait for them to get rid of is the C79 sight, much better and lighter options in this day and age (no need for a 3-4lb sight on there). 25 years ago it was a pretty solid choice, now there is much more effective sights available.

[browningautorifle]

can't wait for them to get rid of is the C79 sight

Aimpoint PRO is far better, except the need for a sight picture without battery function. Perhaps the ACOG. Yes, almost anything would outshine it. Even when it started there were so many problems, they went with the cheap one instead of making the good one cheaper and buying tons. Specter was a far better choice. There were SO many shortcomings and problems with the C79...